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re: Auburn Police Shoot Mentally Ill Woman
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:16 am to 3andOut
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:16 am to 3andOut
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those who put their lives on the line for complete strangers every day and get paid shite to do it.
And then have to deal with all the armchair cops who think they would have just karate chopped the knife out of the girls hand, gave her a hug, and saved the day.
It's real easy to sit at your computer and say how you would have handled a situation when you're not faced with the split second decision on what to do about this person coming toward you with a knife.
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:16 am to AggieDub14
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I respect your statement. It's your first one that bugs me. If you don't know what it's like, then choose your words carefully
You sound like an epic douche. No disrespect intended.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:18 am to terd ferguson
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you can't expect a police officer to take on a knife wielding suspect with his bare hands.
You don't think that Police Officers should have the type of training to take down an individual with a non-ranged weapon? Damn talk about low expectations.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:21 am to ChargerDog91
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Auburn Police Shoot Mentally Ill Girl
Every time the police shoots a female it could be classified as shooting a mentally ill person.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:23 am to Realistic Ag
which is safer, a known felon with a knife or a schizophrenic with knife? Both of them will and can kill you just as easy. Mental illness is no excuse. I know of several instances where families have called the police to a scene of a disturbed mental individual who is enraged and out of control, and the results are similar. Sometimes these things go bad, and these people cannot be reasoned with, nor safely disarmed. Our problem in this country is not that we need gun control to be more strict, we need mental healthcare to be more available and affordable. Many of these people who commit violent crimes would have been locked away years ago because of this type of behavior, but today we are too politically correct to do so.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:25 am to Fear The Thumb
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Every time the police shoots a female it could be classified as shooting a mentally ill person.
Frick allmighty. I generally have a low opinion of Auburn folk regarding their intellect. But this might be the smartest dam thing I've ever read on the Internet.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:25 am to AggieDub14
Sensationalized title
girl: female child or young/relatively young female
girl: female child or young/relatively young female
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:28 am to ChargerDog91
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You don't think that Police Officers should have the type of training to take down an individual with a non-ranged weapon? Damn talk about low expectations.
Yup. Like someone else said taser or pepper spray or something other than shooting her especially when they knew in advance what she was armed with. Granted, we weren't there to see what went down but it does seem ridiculous that the woman got killed in this situation.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:31 am to Fear The Thumb
I wasn't there, but shite they got tazers don't they? I don't think the cops should ride the lightning on this one at first glance. However, shouldn't there be a code that the 911 operator can give to the cops en route that would let them know to use non-life threatening weapons? They use codes for all types of situations. Man I would love an actual cop to respond on this issue.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:32 am to Supravol22
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Don't threaten police with a weapon if you want to live. It's not that tough
Telling a person with mental issues to think logically is like telling a person with severe Spina bifida to walk it off. That's not how it works.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:32 am to piggilicious
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Granted, we weren't there to see what went down but it does seem ridiculous that the woman got killed in this situation
How could it seem ridiculous without being there?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:34 am to AggieDub14
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Race and gender have no bearing in this. The point is she didn't have to die. A frazzled girl with a knife should be able to be stopped by police officers with proper training with very little risk to themselves.
Your ignorance is showing. Do you really think a grown woman running at you with a knife isn't life threatening? This isn't Hollywood, there is no shooting the knife out of her hand or a quick karate chop to the back of the neck.
You have a split second to react against a person that displays the intent to kill. The cop did exactly what he/she was trained to do.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:34 am to roadGator
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How could it seem ridiculous without being there?
Well it's difficult to do, road, but I read the article and it seems ridiculous to me that the girl got killed given what we know. There are unknowns that could change my opinion but on the surface it seems ridiculous to me. Too hard to comprehend?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:34 am to piggilicious
I mean I'm usually on the police side of things, but this is fairly ridiculous. There definitely may be more to this story, but if someone truly doesn't expect cops to be able to take down one individual with a knife, that's really bad.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:35 am to terd ferguson
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I don't give a shite how much training someone has... you can't expect a police officer to take on a knife wielding suspect with his bare hands. They have the same justification as anyone else in that situation... the right to defend yourself against serious harm.
There's been cases involving normal civilians shooting people charging at them with a knife and they've been charged with manslaughter or 2nd degree murder. Those people felt threatened. So why one set of rules for police officers, another set of rules for certain people.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:39 am to AggieDub14
So sorry, low hanging fruit and whatnot
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:40 am to terd ferguson
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t's real easy to sit at your computer and say how you would have handled a situation when you're not faced with the split second decision on what to do about this person coming toward you with a knife.
This guy hit the nail on the head. While I agree I don't see why they couldn't of tazed her, but I also wasn't there. Maybe it went bad and the officer had to react in a split second. Your first reaction is to grab your gun..I know if someone is coming at me with a knife and I have a gun i'm going to shoot you. This whole situation is splitting hairs..yes I think she should of been tazed, but I can't blame them for pulling the trigger either.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:43 am to AggieDub14
These situations always pose "what could have been done" scenarios. The ONE thing that cannot be done is determining what someone's mental intentions/state is at the time of an encounter. If someone is coming at me with a weapon, I would rather go home to my family than play 21 questions to find out if the person has a mental make-up or intention to harm or kill me.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:43 am to bayou2003
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There's been cases involving normal civilians shooting people charging at them with a knife and they've been charged with manslaughter or 2nd degree murder.
I'd like to read the details of these cases. Links?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:44 am to piggilicious
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Too hard to comprehend?
Bitchy. Sort of like.
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