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re: Kim Anderson Fans Check In Here.

Posted on 1/21/15 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by MIZ83
St. Louis
Member since Feb 2013
127 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 2:22 pm to
In.

I think KA is the right guy for the job. I, like many fans old enough to remember Norm Stewart, enjoy fundamentals: dribbling, passing, defense, rebounding, and not the recent garbage of Quinball, 40 minutes of what-the-hell?, and Transfer U.

We like to recruit quality individuals and have them stick around 4 years. We like our coaches to have integrity and be real guys, not Ken dolls or poseurs. We want our coach to want to be the Mizzou coach, not somewhere else.

I had the pleasure of meeting KA at a high school game this year. Remarkably down-to-earth and candid. He showed up by himself, sat next to me, and talked basketball for 2 hours. I know that's not a reason to love him as our head coach, but I believe he knows basketball, knows how to coach, and will be successful at Mizzou. It will just take a little time, and people in this microwave age don't want to wait.
Posted by jafo
Northwest Missouri State Bearcats
Member since Jan 2012
2954 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 4:52 pm to
I grew up watching NS teams. They were always unpredictable. Yes his teams could do alot of what you say. Even when they got to the team they could do those things. Norm just made them iron tough.

I don't see these things with KA. At least not yet. I'm not sure if there are but two players on this team that are good dribblers. One only has one arm (JIII). Defense is hit and miss still. Fast breaks are 50/50 at best half the time it goes off their knee or foot. Shooting has improved. Deciding to go nuts from the three point line in the first two minutes of the game is bad coaching.

I've tried to watch and support. But the team seems to have regressed.

Need to see much improvement over the next few games for me to jump back on. I just don't see it happening at this point. To many basics not being improved apon.

Just an unexpert opinion.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27423 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 4:57 pm to
I think its reasonable to say that at the beginning of the season KA was in over his head. There is no way this roster should have lost to UMKC. No way in hell.

Im not sure he still isnt. I like Kim as a true son of Mizzou but... this is not the job for a Div 2 coach to cut his teeth.

I hope like crazy I am wrong. What better feel good story for the program that ties Norm into the present than a true son coming from the D2 ranks and leading Mizzou back into prominence. Would love to have that narrative play out but wont apologize now for being extremely leery of the possibilities of that coming to fruition.
Posted by TheJoseyWales
Missouri
Member since Dec 2013
155 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 2:08 pm to
Been a MIZZOU fan since the the 70's... Playing merry-go-round with coaches suck. We got a true son who should have been hired after Quinn or at least Anderson. Lets give the guys 3-4 years. Stability counts.....
Posted by TigerTalker16
Columbia,MO
Member since Apr 2015
11533 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:24 pm to
Bump.

4-31 against P5 opponents so far in year 2.

How do the KA supporters in this thread feel now?
This post was edited on 1/21/16 at 9:33 am
Posted by jafo
Northwest Missouri State Bearcats
Member since Jan 2012
2954 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 6:39 am to
With NCAA sanctions looming over head, what choice does Mizzou really have? It's KA or some other boob coach with the same result. I think the violations has played into this cluster all along. From the Haith run for your life move and hiring KA. This wad going to happen no matter.
Posted by TigerTalker16
Columbia,MO
Member since Apr 2015
11533 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 6:56 am to
The NCAA sanctions aren't even that bad.

One scholarship and vacated wins from two shite seasons woooooooo
Posted by ZackAttackTiger
Kansas City
Member since Dec 2014
381 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 7:09 am to
The NCAA violations have had absolutely nothing to do with KA's tenure. The guy just can't coach or recruit. Going forward the violations might because people are aware of them. You think last year and this year are bad just wait for a year three of KA.

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With NCAA sanctions looming over head, what choice does Mizzou really have? It's KA or some other boob coach with the same result. I think the violations has played into this cluster all along. From the Haith run for your life move and hiring KA. This wad going to happen no matter.


Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3072 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:35 am to
In.

Alden's & Haith's train wreck is gonna take mucho time. KA inherited this total abortion without even knowing about the violations.

If beating on a down program is fun for you, beat on.
Posted by BurgTiger
Member since Feb 2014
2766 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:38 am to
We root for a school that decided to make a safe hire for head basketball coach so we could avoid sanctions that guys like Howland might bring. So we hired Frank freaking Haith. This my friends is life as a Mizzou fan. At this rate I wouldn't be shocked if the safest coaching hire of all time, KA, turns out to commit a triple hommicide hate crime.
Posted by mosoblkcougar
Kansas City
Member since Oct 2013
1248 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:56 am to
KA is not the right coach to get us through this. He has no idea what he's doing, if you're on PM go read Mizzouman's posts and all the crap he's been told about KA not knowing how to scout and having to call other conference coaches asking for help. The recruiting is piss poor too, never addressing our needs for an impact big. KA is in over his head, you'd be blind not to see it.
Posted by Tackle74
Columbia, MO
Member since Mar 2012
5256 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 10:11 am to
KA is doing more harm then the current NCAA violations are. He is driving this program off a cliff, if you cannot see that you are just blind. Time to cut the losses and restart.
Posted by ZackAttackTiger
Kansas City
Member since Dec 2014
381 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 12:02 pm to
Part of Alden's train wreck included hiring KA. He is a disaster. We want what is best for our school and KA clearly isn't the answer. Surely you can see that he can't handle the job. Using the violations to support him is a joke. He would have taken the job regardless. No one outside the NCAA or school knew about the violations until recently either so how can that be hurting him????

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In. Alden's & Haith's train wreck is gonna take mucho time. KA inherited this total abortion without even knowing about the violations. If beating on a down program is fun for you, beat on.
Posted by sofa
CoMo
Member since Nov 2013
631 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 12:21 pm to
Contrary to some assertions, it does not take 3-4 years to turn a basketball program around. One really good player can change fortunes almost immediately. Better players/better coaching can show quick progress.

There is no progress from last year.
Posted by Tigersessed
Member since Feb 2012
498 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:04 pm to
LOL at the timing of this thread bump.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

Contrary to some assertions, it does not take 3-4 years to turn a basketball program around. One really good player can change fortunes almost immediately. Better players/better coaching can show quick progress.

There is no progress from last year.


So this.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 10:11 am to
quote:

Contrary to some assertions, it does not take 3-4 years to turn a basketball program around. One really good player can change fortunes almost immediately. Better players/better coaching can show quick progress.

True in some cases IF you have some experience to go along with said 'one really good player'; we have 10 FR & SOs.

quote:

There is no progress from last year.

We're basically a completely different team from last year.
Posted by sofa
CoMo
Member since Nov 2013
631 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 12:42 pm to
Then let's zoom in. I don't feel there was much progress being made from the beginning of the season til now.

And there certainly wasn't any start-to-finish improvements last season.

I'm all for giving coaches a chance to get three seasons under their belt and understand the lack of upperclassmen. That said, Anderson needs to get something going quickly. Some sort of improvement. Maybe a victory. Maybe consecutive victories.
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 1:50 pm to
Churning through coaches can/does set a program back more than a poor coach. If nothing else he is recruiting better than Haith. And he does seem to be getting the guys under control. He at least looks like the guy to get the program stable and to ride out the NCAA thing so we can get a better coach, but if it goes that way it won't be for a couple of years. I'm still hopeful that he turns out to be a better game coach than we've seen, but like the rest of you I haven't seen any evidence of that.
This post was edited on 1/22/16 at 2:33 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111519 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

If nothing else he is recruiting better than Haith


He may have more 4*s who showed up to Mizzou at some point, but I don't think you can say he really is recruiting better than Haith. If anything, he seems more lost on how to put together a roster than Haith was. That's a trait I thought would be impossible to duplicate, let alone surpass.
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