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Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:14 pm to
Posted by JesusQuintana
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:14 pm to
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Some guy


Waino
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:17 pm to
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I agree. Spent some time pounding fan graphs as well but the kid is legit as a CF.

I just hate the talk from some that want to move him to the corner OF already that really have no clue.


He should have been in CF all season.

quote:

--Make move for corner OF because that is where you will get most return cost the other way.



Would love Gonzalez. If Holliday is back by playoffs, that's a great problem to have. After the season, let Heyward walk and get the compensatory pick. Got Gonzalez for what? 2 more years under contract? Correct me if I'm wrong.

As for your rotation...no Waccha?

ETA - I know he's had a couple rough outings but I'm not ready to give up on him.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 11:19 pm
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:18 pm to
Errr, read Waino as Wacha...but yeah. We have pitching.

Need a bat.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27421 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:21 pm to
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Waino


quote:

Quite possibly brother. Wouldnt that be something.


I just casually missed Michael Wacha in my projected rotation in 2017.

We are spoiled.



This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 11:33 pm
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:24 pm to
@LangoschMLB: Per source, #stlcards called #brewers re: Adam Lind before tonight; so far talks have gone nowhere b/c of no match with other pieces. (1/2)
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27421 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:27 pm to
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Adam Lind before tonight; so far talks have gone nowhere b/c of no match with other pieces.


You dont give up "cogs" for 3 months of Adam Lind. frick them.

Make a real move or let Reynolds do the job and look at it next year.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:34 pm to
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You dont give up "cogs" for 3 months of Adam Lind. frick them.



Especially when those cogs are sure to burn your arse in division for years to come.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:36 pm to
Just can't see looking at next year having the best record in the game. Hell, maybe we can win it all without a move but I don't see it with the offense going into hiding so often.

Lind is a good hitter. He needs a platoon partner, but he can hit. He's also under contract for next year as well and might make more sense IF Holiday can come back for the playoffs.

I think we have to make a move. Even if we overpay a bit:
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:37 pm to
I thought Lind's contract was up after this year.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:38 pm to
Ahhh, team option for 2016
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:39 pm to
8M option

LINK
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27421 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:41 pm to
Team option @ $8 million for 2016
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27421 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:44 pm to
So it appears Mo is sniffing the tires on Lind.

What would you give up?

Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:45 pm to
Cooney.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:47 pm to
Man, I don't know because as I look at it, it's not just who am I not gonna have in the future, but who am I now going to have to face for the next 5 years. Just hate trades within the decision.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27421 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:54 pm to
I think a deal with Gonzalez as the head piece is coming. Softer throwing lefty yady yady yady....

Im not sure I like it though. Make him work into something more long term. He is never going to be a "guy" on this staff looking forward though.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 11:55 pm
Posted by Stir of Echoes
SD, LA, OC, and the Inland Empire.
Member since Feb 2015
1052 posts
Posted on 7/30/15 at 8:36 am to
Mo just got fleeced.

Maybe he can trade Reyes for Skip Schumacher now.
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
17228 posts
Posted on 7/30/15 at 9:47 am to
Gave up a good prospect, but Moss does have some much needed power.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 7/30/15 at 10:34 am to
I'm not real concerned giving up Kaminsky, but I just wish we would go get a great player just once. You know we won't sign one.

Moss is just ok. He's having a down year and he's mired in a slump at the moment.

Blah
Posted by Stir of Echoes
SD, LA, OC, and the Inland Empire.
Member since Feb 2015
1052 posts
Posted on 7/30/15 at 11:08 am to
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I'm not real concerned giving up Kaminsky


No, but I felt like he was a piece that could go in a package deal for someone like CarGo.

I get the sense that teams are asking Mo for the world, and he wont bite. GMs know he's in a tough spot right now, theres not alot that he can play close to the vest at this point. He needs hitters, and teams want his prospects.

Maybe this will work, maybe it wont. At this point I'm going to sit back and hope they can hold the division lead, and get some magic in October.
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