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re: Expect more of the same from Bert for the 17'-18' season
Posted on 4/1/17 at 9:27 pm to rockiee
Posted on 4/1/17 at 9:27 pm to rockiee
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I have felt to a certain degree that it is mostly useless to be hypercritical of Bert right now because he isn't going anywhere after this year barring something unforeseen. I don't blame others for doing that though with what we have see during his tenure. Jeff Long has definitely done him some favors on that contract.
I see this thrown around alot on here and elsewhere, but its absolutely, positively, 100% untrue. I'm not sure exactly how Jeff Long got this label of being a giant puss, but behind closed doors the man is all business and understands the entire scope of his job.
I think people see him bragging on team GPAs and academic accomplishments and assume that means he's satisfied with the product, but it's actually quite the opposite. He understands branding and constantly wants to paint the UofA in a good light, academics have been about his only selling point lately other than our slight MBB success. Not only that, his job depends on these programs doing well and succeeding both on and off the field; if one of those aspects isnt doing as well as the other, you'd be propping up the better of the two also.
If CBB has a failure of a season and there's a feeling of further sinking? Long absolutely lets him go, barring some sort of justifiable reason to keep him. They're not scared of the buyout and know it would cost much more in the long run to keep failing.
Posted on 4/1/17 at 10:24 pm to RazorBroncs
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I'm not sure exactly how Jeff Long got this label of being a giant puss, but behind closed doors the man is all business and understands the entire scope of his job.
I understand that there is some major hate for Jeff Long on this board from some posters but I'm not sure how you got all that from what I posted.
The only thing that I have ever complained about in regards to Jeff Long in the buyout for Bert. I actually think he has done a good job outside of that. I have even defended him in some threads. I guess you are just kind of lumping me in with some of his haters.
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They're not scared of the buyout and know it would cost much more in the long run to keep failing.
That might be the case and that's great but that still doesn't mean it was a good decision.
Posted on 4/1/17 at 10:33 pm to rockiee
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The only thing that I have ever complained about in regards to Jeff Long in the buyout for Bert. I actually think he has done a good job outside of that.
I understand the buyout the part, I don't like is he didn't make it a two way committal. Bert is not nearly as committed as we are contractually
Posted on 4/1/17 at 10:40 pm to RazorBroncs
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If CBB has a failure of a season and there's a feeling of further sinking? Long absolutely lets him go,
No way Jose
Bert is in til the 2019 season
Bert is a negotiator, a little bit of this and a whole lotta that.
GPA's are up
A 9 win season and Bert's locked up til 2021
Posted on 4/1/17 at 10:46 pm to RazorBroncs
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I'm not sure exactly how Jeff Long got this label of being a giant puss,
I get a kick out of the guys that say he shouldn't hire a football coach or be the AD because he never played football.
Posted on 4/1/17 at 11:01 pm to RazorBroncs
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if CBB has a failure of a season and there's a feeling of further sinking? Long absolutely lets him go, barring some sort of justifiable reason to keep him. They're not scared of the buyout and know it would cost much more in the long run to keep failing.
I hope so. I also hope Long has learned his lesson with the contract. I hope he is able to hire a football coach with Bret Bielema's résumé too. That was a tremendous hire on paper, but he has failed here. We just spent an exorbitant amount of money expanding the football stadium, and I can't help but think that will factor into decisions somehow.
Posted on 4/1/17 at 11:12 pm to TheCheshireHog
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I get a kick out of the guys that say he shouldn't hire a football coach or be the AD because he never played football.
Ya, shite like that is stupid. I'm guess although many didn't play football at any collegiate level they have no issue giving their opinions during the game.
Posted on 4/1/17 at 11:50 pm to rockiee
with that buyout, Bert could go 3/9 and still be here next season.
Jeff hasn't done an awesome job, he has been mediocre imho. Great talker, not much else to see here.
I am not feeling great about his choices thus far. Yet, I am not against him either.
We will see over the next few seasons.
Jeff hasn't done an awesome job, he has been mediocre imho. Great talker, not much else to see here.
I am not feeling great about his choices thus far. Yet, I am not against him either.
We will see over the next few seasons.
Posted on 4/2/17 at 12:45 am to TheCheshireHog
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I get a kick out of the guys that say he shouldn't hire a football coach or be the AD because he never played football.
Jeff played more football than most Hog fans. He played collegiality at Ohio Wesleyan.
Posted on 4/2/17 at 6:20 am to Feral
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strength & conditioning program absolutely sucks
Beasts come out at night under the lights and all that stuff.
Posted on 4/2/17 at 7:28 am to Arkansasrazorback
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but he has failed here
Posted on 4/2/17 at 7:51 am to hilltophog
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Jeff played more football than most Hog fans. He played collegiality at Ohio Wesleyan.
That was my point. Most of our fans don't realize that so the excuse is humorous.
Posted on 4/2/17 at 8:50 am to Arkansasrazorback
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but he has failed here
What more would he have needed to do to pass? For me he hasn't lived up to his potential but he's doing ok
Posted on 4/2/17 at 10:43 am to oklahogjr
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have needed to do to pass? For me he hasn't lived up to his potential but he's doing ok
He has an overall losing record after four years. If that's not failure in your eyes then I don't know what to tell you.
This post was edited on 4/2/17 at 10:47 am
Posted on 4/2/17 at 4:09 pm to Arkansasrazorback
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He has an overall losing record after four years. If that's not failure in your eyes then I don't know what to tell you.
Take away that utterly craptastic first year when he walked into a dumpster fire he has a winning record.
Overall.
He still has a losing record in conference play even if you skip that first year.
Bert really needs to show some life this year or I think Jeff Long might decide to shrug and take the hit. He is at the stand and deliver stage of his career at Arkansas.
Posted on 4/2/17 at 6:18 pm to Arksulli
Bret is making coaching changes when needed and the recruiting is getting better.No doubt he wants to win here and I'm willing to be patient until he shows he has quit.
Depth is being developed and our walk on group is getting better.When the pieces fall into place we'll make a run.
But we could kick him to the curb and suck hind tit again with a coach we never heard of....that's our next step.We got lucky with the last two hires..most likely won't happen again..
Depth is being developed and our walk on group is getting better.When the pieces fall into place we'll make a run.
But we could kick him to the curb and suck hind tit again with a coach we never heard of....that's our next step.We got lucky with the last two hires..most likely won't happen again..
Posted on 4/2/17 at 6:49 pm to Arkansasrazorback
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He has an overall losing record after four years
Let's not lump in the first 2 years of the shite storm he inherited
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