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re: Expect more of the same from Bert for the 17'-18' season

Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:21 am to
Posted by sugatowng
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:21 am to
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Jesus. If that's true than our recruiting or talent evaluation really is piss poor


I would hope that all posters on this board could sniff out a troll...
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Posted by Feral
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 7:49 pm to
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I know...I was OLB in college in a 3-4 scheme


This might backfire on you if he played in the 3-4 scheme while in the NFL


I'm Dick LeBeau IRL

Posted by Razorback Reverend
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 7:53 pm to
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Feral

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I'm Dick LeBeau IRL

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I'm Dick LeBeau

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I'm Dick


I Couldn't resist Feral... However I enjoy your input. Thanks!
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 9:10 pm
Posted by Feral
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:29 pm to
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I Couldn't resist Feral... However I enjoy your input. Thanks!



Thanks you Richard head
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Posted by ArHog
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:46 pm to
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Meh...I listened to Bo's interview with Bert yesterday evening and here is what I took from his comment about Frank...It seemed tongue in cheek. It was used in the context of explaining how good of an athlete Frank is and how this off season he has added weight and more muscle. Prior to talking about him playing a snap on the DL, he also talked about him playing QB and TE. So there you go. For those that didn't listen. That is the type of comment that is getting some of you rustled.


I don't waste my time listening to that short bald fricker,just follow his stupid tweets.
Thaks for the update and the breakdown of Bert's coach speak.


Posted by Razorback Reverend
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:07 pm to
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Thanks you Richard head
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 12:18 am to
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some here sure make one wonder why they are on an internet message board, and not coaching a team themselves, and getting paid several million a year for their competence.

oh please this is the most tiring argument ever. The fact is most if us on here probably could do a pretty good job coaching. It's not like coaching is rocket science. The bottom line is most coaches at the lower levels dont make Jackshit and it's extremely hard to move up the coaching ladder unless you've played or know someone and have an in. So most people would rather go to school to get a job that pays better with more security.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 5:47 am to
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I don't waste my time listening to that short bald fricker,just follow his stupid tweets.
Thaks for the update and the breakdown of Bert's coach speak.


I don't either most of the time. I was scrolling down twitter and someone had posted just the clip of the interview with Bert and I wanted to listen and see what all he had to say. Bert is a little more loose when he speaks to Bo. They seem to have a pretty solid relationship. Listening to Bo interview him and Bert tends to get away from the normal coach speak.
Posted by troyt37
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 10:15 am to
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The fact is most if us on here probably could do a pretty good job coaching.


So how many teams have you coached to a championship level in any sport, for any age? Either you've personally done that, or you were incompetent, right?
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 10:19 am to
Read the rest of my post. and I'm 20 years old going to school to become a coach actually. again it's not rocket science
Posted by troyt37
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 10:48 am to
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I'm 20 years old going to school to become a coach actually. again it's not rocket science


So in reality, you don't know the first damn thing about the subject you are pontificating about. Got it. Becoming a coach will be good for you, trust me.
Posted by Arksulli
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 10:48 am to
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20 years old going to school to become a coach actually.


What sports are you looking at coaching in?
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 11:07 am to
Football, baseball ideally. And the other guy is hopeless. He acts like college football coaches are some geniuses who hsve some special understanding of football but in reality they are just the ones with god given talent to play college ball so then were able to coach college football or were lucky enough to coach a d1 athletein high school and piggy back on him to get to the college ranks
Posted by troyt37
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 11:33 am to
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And the other guy is hopeless. He acts like college football coaches are some geniuses who hsve some special understanding of football but in reality they are just the ones with god given talent to play college ball so then were able to coach college football or were lucky enough to coach a d1 athletein high school and piggy back on him to get to the college ranks


If you're talking about me here, you're just displaying your ignorance. I'm saying that like many jobs, there are thousands of things that people who haven't done it, don't know, and don't understand, which are crucial to being successful.

When you start talking about doing it at the very highest level, those things increase exponentially, as does the things over which you as the coach have no control. You get all that knocked in the head, then you can start thinking about how you do all of that at enough of a higher level than say, Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, Dabo Swinney, Jimbo Fisher, David Shaw, et al, to make up for the difference in the caliber of players you are going to be able to sign, versus the ones they can sign.

Good luck in your coaching career. I see a lot of championships at every level for you. After all, it's not rocket science.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 12:59 pm to
Except he doesn't play all of those coaches very year. We face Saban out of that group and that's it. Malzahn, freeze, mullen, orgeron,Odom are the guys he's coaching against and if you don't think there are other coaches out there even at the high school level who understand the game x's and o's wise as well as beilama I don't know what to tell you. The game is the same at every level the ball doesn't change. The field doesn't change the equipment doesn't change. If I can outcoach toy with high schools kids who have a little less talent than your high school kids I can do the same if we each had elite talent but yours was a little bit better. So I good coach is a good coach. A person who understands the game of football understands the game of football. It's not some mystic knowledge. Theres a reason that the guy who coached at north Dakota State for so long bland won multiple fcs titles has already won a division title at Wyoming. Or why Peterson has success at Washington or why petrino kept Louisville in the top 10 a reason that briles made Baylor relevant. These guys know football even though they come from places like Idaho and Montana or stared out coaching high school ball.
Posted by troyt37
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 1:24 pm to
I can see we aren't going to agree, so I'll call this good. If you held a convention of coaches, and told them that all it takes to win versus Nick Saban is being a good, competent coach, the overwhelming majority would either laugh you out of the building, or want to punch you in the nose.

Since Arkansas plays in the SEC West, playing for a West, SEC, and National championship means you not only have to outcoach Nick Saban the week you play him, but also every other week of the season, along with every other coach in the SEC west. Your statements illustrate that you have no concept of this, but it's a fact.

Big talkers like yourself should be coaches. I think if you become one, and experience any level of success, you will look back on some of your statements here and cringe. Good luck.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 3:17 pm to
I'm not saying he's gotta beat saban. Guys like Saban Fisher carrol bellichik obviously have this whole coaching thing down to a T bit to say that every guy that coaches in college or the nfl is some football guru is ludicrous. And the same can be said for thinking no-one walking the street would be a good college or nfl coach. I'm sure there's is plenty of guys who would've been great coaches but aren't cpacjimh for one reason or another so it's dumb for your comeback to be "your not the one getting paid millions to coach football". Let's not forget nick Saban was close to going home and helping his momma run the family gas station after his father passed away and if it werent for her insisting he stick to coaching we would never have seen his greatness
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 3:22 pm to
And what statement have I said that I should cringe at? You made a straw man out of what I said. I never said any half decent coach could beat Saban or that beilama was a bad coach because he couldn't beat saban. Your the one who brought up Saban. I'm not expecting Bert to consistently beat the greatest college football coach ever. This entire argument started on the page before where someone made a remark to your post and your response was basically beilama knows more than you because he's the coach and gets paid the big bucks. Which simply isn't always true. Jeff Fisher has been a head coach in the nfl for over 10 years. I promise you there are PLENTY of college and high school coaches who could coach circles around his dumbass.
Posted by rockiee
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 3:46 pm to
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The game is the same at every level the ball doesn't change.


This definitely isn't true but I don't necessarily disagree with you on some of your other points
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 3:55 pm to
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I'm not saying he's gotta beat saban.


If you expect him to win the SEC West he probably does.

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Guys like Saban Fisher carrol bellichik obviously have this whole coaching thing down to a T bit to say that every guy that coaches in college or the nfl is some football guru is ludicrous.


Never said anything about being a guru myself, but you can rest assured that if you are able to convince any company or institution to pay you several million dollars per year to do whatever you do, you are considered by many to be among the very best at what you do.

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I'm sure there's is plenty of guys who would've been great coaches but aren't cpacjimh for one reason or another so it's dumb for your comeback to be "your not the one getting paid millions to coach football".


No, it's stating a fact. If your football knowledge is next level stuff, and you have the ability to get young men to perform above their talent level on a weekly basis, someone out there is willing to pay you money like you've never dreamed of. If you have that ability, but you are spending your time trying to impress people with it on an internet message board, you are either incredibly stupid, or incredibly lazy.
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