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re: Can't believe LSU fans put up with this...

Posted on 9/7/16 at 4:48 pm to
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 4:48 pm to
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christ


It's the truth. LSU's only problem is that they can no longer beat Bama.

In games against all other teams, LSU was 126-31 from 2000-2011 (80.2%). They've been 37-11 ever since, 2012-2016 (77.1%).

That includes the loss to Wisconsin. That's not much of a slide. Literally prior to the game against Wisconsin, the difference in those winning percentages was one single game. Had one single game that LSU lost from 2012-2015 against a team not named Bama had been a win, LSU's winning percentage against teams not named Bama would have turned out better from 2012-2015 than it was from 2000-2011.

Sorry, but you've got a Nick Saban problem, not a Les Miles problem.
This post was edited on 9/7/16 at 4:55 pm
Posted by Tigerfan29
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 4:50 pm to
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you've got a Nick Saban problem, not a Les Miles problem


You do understand that these two are in direct correlation with one another don't you?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70980 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 4:50 pm to
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outside of the 2 loss national title season, Miles and Richt have very comparable resumes. oddly enough, UGA fans think UGA was the best team in the country in that season



not to mention Richt's thorn in his side was clearly UF, as since 2005 UGA has only beat them 4 times. Most of that was due to Meyer, who only lsot to UGA once from 2005-2010.

So the problem for UGA was not Richt; it is UF. Until UF or UGA decides to join the ACC, I don't foresee a coaching change really changing anything.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 4:50 pm to
why are you including 2000-2004? Les Miles did not coach LSU then. And Les used to beat Alabama and Saban. He started his career 3-3 against Saban and 5-3 against Alabama. The national title game broke him
This post was edited on 9/7/16 at 4:53 pm
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 4:50 pm to
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Richt finished in the top 10 2 of his last 4 years

see how easy it is to cherry pick stats to suit a narrative ?


Nope. Because you've still got the problem of those other 2 years. Richt finished unranked in those other 2 seasons during that same four year period. There is no 4-year time period during the entire Miles era that includes two seasons in which LSU failed to finish in the Top 25. Heck there have only been two such years out of 11!

So again, its not close to the same.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70980 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 4:51 pm to
And you had a UF problem, not a Richt problem.

Did you even see Richt's astounding numbers I posted?

top 10 in two of the last 4 years!
Posted by c on z
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 4:51 pm to
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Had one single game that LSU lost from 2012-2015 against a team not named Bama had been a win, LSU's winning percentage against teams not named Bama would have turned out better from 2012-2015 than it was from 2000-2011.

Even this within the last 2 years is sliding against our favor.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 4:51 pm to
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Richt also finished in the top 25 11 times in his 15 year career at UGA

yet he was fired in a 9-3 season


11/15 < 9/11

Try again.
Posted by Sid E Walker
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 4:53 pm to
The real issue with LSU folks is the head to head record with Bama. There would be no discussion about canning Les if L5U didn't happen.

They won't admit it, but that is absolutely the cause of their angst. The Wisconsin loss is merely a subterfuge to hide this truth.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 4:54 pm to
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Mark Richt finished in the top 10 SEVEN times in his 15 year career at UGA.


And Les Miles has done it 5 times in 10 years.

Again 7/15 < 5/10

You can keep trying all day long, but it falls short each time.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96633 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 4:55 pm to
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The real issue with LSU folks is the head to head record with Bama. There would be no discussion about canning Les if L5U didn't happen.
Well no shite you dumbfrick piece of county shite.

If the 5 losses didnt happen, we would have a title in 2011, another title in 2012 if we beat UGA in the title game, and would have been alive for another title in 2015.


So way to go out on a limb that things would be different countyMccountface
This post was edited on 9/7/16 at 4:56 pm
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 4:56 pm to
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You do understand that these two are in direct correlation with one another don't you?


And you do realize that until Saban decides to hang it up, nothing is going to change.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 4:56 pm to
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Well no shite you dumbfrick piece of county shite.



Take a break
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65523 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 4:56 pm to
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The real issue with LSU folks is the head to head record with Bama. There would be no discussion about canning Les if L5U didn't happen.

They won't admit it, but that is absolutely the cause of their angst. The Wisconsin loss is merely a subterfuge to hide this truth.


well one of those losses single handedly cost LSU the division, another a national title. And, for me at least, it was getting blown out by Arkansas and Ole Miss last year that did it for me. I can stomach a loss to Alabama. I cannot stomach getting blown out three straight games
This post was edited on 9/7/16 at 4:58 pm
Posted by Tigerfan29
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 4:57 pm to
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And you do realize that until Saban decides to hang it up, nothing is going to change.


And I disagree with this. Just ask Hugh Freeze
Posted by Sid E Walker
InsecureU ©
Member since Nov 2013
23888 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 4:58 pm to
Then why are others saying it's the overall record rather than the record versus Bama?

You is mad, too.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65523 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 4:58 pm to
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Then why are others saying it's the overall record rather than the record versus Bama?

it's both. Les wouldn't be on the hot seat if his only knock was not beating Alabama.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 5:00 pm to
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Just ask Hugh Freeze


You realize why Saban is great right? He is consistently putting his team in great spots every year. A coach beating him 2 or 3 times in a row doesn't change that. Look to the last two years as proof.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70980 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 5:00 pm to
How does that justify firing Richt? Clearly he wasn't the problem; Florida is the problem.
This post was edited on 9/7/16 at 5:01 pm
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 5:01 pm to
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So the problem for UGA was not Richt; it is UF.


Nope. Again you are wrong.

From 2001-2008, Richt lost 2.0 games per year to teams other than Florida.
From 2009-2015, Richt lost 3.6 games per year to teams other than Florida.

Sorry, but you can keep throwing shite at the wall over and over again.... but facts are facts. None of your comparisons to Richt can be backed up with facts.
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