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re: What is the statute of limitations on college football "Elite Status?"

Posted on 7/6/15 at 6:44 pm to
Posted by nebraskafaninwi
Member since Mar 2013
2655 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 6:44 pm to
You should learn how programs have ebs and flows. Then you might see the fallacy in your post.

No program can be elite if they have not won a national title. NOBODY.

Application denied.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12317 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 6:44 pm to
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2Recruiting rankings for Neb...247 composite '12... #30 '13... #22 '14... #36 '15... #31 '16... #24


Here's the problem. No talent in the state and in a part of the country very few want to be. It's less about what Nebraska has done in the past 20 years, but they're potential for the next 20. There is just not much there.

Just look at the top recruits out of the state of Nebraska over the past couple years and how many played signed at D1 schools. It doesn't look promising
This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 6:49 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 6:44 pm to
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A "generation" is thought of as ~25 years.

If your program hasn't accomplished much of note for 25 years, we'll say that.

And 25 seasons would go back to...1990.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 6:45 pm to
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You should learn how programs have ebs and flows. Then you might see the fallacy in your post.

No program can be elite if they have not won a national title. NOBODY.

Application denied.

So Osborne wasn't an elite coach until Jan 95?
Posted by nebraskafaninwi
Member since Mar 2013
2655 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 6:47 pm to
Who said anything about an individual coach?
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 6:49 pm to
Do you even consistency, bro?
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34342 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 6:52 pm to
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You should learn how programs have ebs and flows


I get that. Alabama will always have an easier time in football than say A&M. I am not dumb.

Yet you won't admit the opposite- that some things DO change. Realignment, national demographic shifts, and uber rich alums can change the projectory of programs for forever. Thanks to Realignment no elite Texas recruit will ever pick Nebraska over A&M again. When I was in school that was a fact of life. Things can change for the better or for the worse.
This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 6:53 pm
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 6:54 pm to
The trend at Nebraska will be hard to reverse. Hiring Riley was symbolic of their current mediocrity. That is not the coach you hire to beat Urban Meyer or Harbaugh.
This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 6:56 pm
Posted by nebraskafaninwi
Member since Mar 2013
2655 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 6:54 pm to
So you don't even know what you are trying to argue lol.
Posted by nebraskafaninwi
Member since Mar 2013
2655 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 6:56 pm to
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The trend at Nebraska will be hard to reverse. Hiring Riley was a symbolic of their current mediocrity. That is not the coach you hire to beat Urban Meyer or Harbaugh.


Series record between those two coaches is tied at 2. Next time have a clue what you are talking about.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:02 pm to
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Series record between those two coaches is tied at 2. Next time have a clue what you are talking about.


Harbaugh built that team at Stanford from the ground. Riley had his recruits the entire four years. Harbaugh would've owned that series like Shaw had he stayed longer.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:04 pm to
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So you don't even know what you are trying to argue lol.

Troll on, brother.
Posted by MIZ_USA
Member since Jan 2014
615 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:16 pm to
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nebraskafaninwi

You are just getting shite on in this thread.
Posted by nebraskafaninwi
Member since Mar 2013
2655 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:25 pm to
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Harbaugh built that team at Stanford from the ground. Riley had his recruits the entire four years. Harbaugh would've owned that series like Shaw had he stayed longer.


During the time those coaches were in the Pac 12, Riley was 31-20 and Harbaugh was 30-20 with a series record tied at 2.

Yet another clueless post.
Posted by nebraskafaninwi
Member since Mar 2013
2655 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:26 pm to
Yeah, Missouri fans like yapping their jaw after two little seasons and now think they have arrived...lol.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:27 pm to
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During the time those coaches were in the Pac 12, Riley was 31-20 and Harbaugh was 30-20 with a series record tied at 2.

Yet another clueless post.



Context is king. Stanford was shite when Harbaugh arrived. They were at the bottom of the PAC - 12. Riley was at his pinnacle. You are a clueless poster.


Harbaugh started with a far worse team and left his team far better.
This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 7:28 pm
Posted by nebraskafaninwi
Member since Mar 2013
2655 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:33 pm to
Yeah, and Oregon State is such an easy place to recruit too...lol.

There is a reason why USCw and Alabama BOTH tried to hire him TWICE.

Get a clue.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
40081 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:34 pm to
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During the time those coaches were in the Pac 12, Riley was 31-20 and Harbaugh was 30-20 with a series record tied at 2.

Yet another clueless post.


So you'll have no problem comparing any of the other Big 10 coaches to Riley his first few years at Nebraska even though he hasn't got his guys in there?
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:40 pm to
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Yeah, and Oregon State is such an easy place to recruit too...lol.

There is a reason why USCw and Alabama BOTH tried to hire him TWICE.

Get a clue.


Riley was not a splash hire. He was at the point USC and Bama tried to get him when he almost won that PAC. He was seriously trending down when you snagged him. If I remember correctly, he was bowl eligible once in the last three years. Stock was sell.

Stanford can out recruit Oregon State but Harbaugh's success wasn't based on his recruiting. He really didn't have that advantage until 2010.

I personally hope for the best with Riley. He is a good guy. But he needed a revival.
This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 7:41 pm
Posted by nebraskafaninwi
Member since Mar 2013
2655 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:43 pm to
You should ask how USCw felt about losing to Riley and destroying their seasons when they were ranked at the top of the nation.

Two blueblood programs tried to hire him TWICE and both failed.
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