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Posted on 8/26/16 at 12:12 pm to ChexMix
quote:Only half of that statement is true. Yes, Cops write tickets for violating the law, but they can pull you over for a suspicion of violating the law.
The only reason to pull over a motor vehicle is if the law is being violated. Cops write tickets for violating the law.
Take a DUI checkpoint/drivers license check where they are stopping every car, asking for a DL and in doing so assessing each driver for signs of DUI. If a car is coming up to the checkpoint and turns around before going through, you can bet your last dollar one of those cops is going to pursue and pull the car over. Why? Because it will give them a suspicion that there is a reason you don't want to get checked. That right there could be the basis for an evading charge, even if you haven't had a drink in 10 years and just had your DL renewed the week before.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 12:42 pm to TigerPaw1
quote:preferably the second game
You suspend him a game for stupidity
Posted on 8/26/16 at 12:44 pm to PJinAtl
quote:true, but i dont think a DUI checkpoint situation applies here
Take a DUI checkpoint/drivers license check where they are stopping every car, asking for a DL and in doing so assessing each driver for signs of DUI. If a car is coming up to the checkpoint and turns around before going through, you can bet your last dollar one of those cops is going to pursue and pull the car over. Why? Because it will give them a suspicion that there is a reason you don't want to get checked. That right there could be the basis for an evading charge, even if you haven't had a drink in 10 years and just had your DL renewed the week before.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 1:51 pm to Weagle25
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I don't know if this counts but if I pull over a vehicle and a guy high tails it as soon as the car stops, I'm going to suspect he committed a crime
While I agree with the logic, the legal system does not. This essentially falls under the stop and identify statutes in Alabama. There has to be a reasonable suspicion of a specific crime having been committed. If they went after Roberts only because he ran from the scene with no other evidence of criminal activity, he got screwed.
That said, our football team should not care about whether SR got in trouble with the law. If you've had issues getting in trouble and your HS friend already was gunned down, being caught with an unregistered gun is a red flag for sure.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 2:12 pm to ChexMix
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true, but i dont think a DUI checkpoint situation applies here
DUI checkpoints have specific rules and are a defined exception to the 4th amendment. Essentially the USSC viewed DUI checkpoints as a reasonable response to high rates of drunk driving, meeting the "reasonable" condition.
They go out of their way to specify that random pulling people over is not covered. That's why police look for failure to use turn signals, "speeding," illegal lane change etc to pull people over for suspicion of drunk driving
Posted on 8/26/16 at 4:46 pm to GenesChin
Stephen Roberts clearly isn't #AuburnFast if he can't outrun a police officer.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 5:36 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Dammit Jim, I'm a TV repairman not a detective.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 5:45 pm to AUtigerNOLA
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Yeah didn't realize it was his first run in.
Lots of people sure were willing to jump on the repeat offender train though.
Oh, and for Laniers, it is my personal experience as a military vet that the % of scumbags wearing that uniform closely matches the % of scumbags in the general population.
I'm willing to be that the same thing holds for our boys in blue. So, yes, some of them are perfectly willing to lie their asses off.
Just like I respect those in the Armed Forces, I respect police officers to because they have a dirty job to do when they are called to do it. That doesn't make them a force of choir boys and girls though.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 5:46 pm to LanierSpots
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My phone does not play well with others.
The keys on those old flip-phones are tricky.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 5:55 pm to PJinAtl
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Only half of that statement is true. Yes, Cops write tickets for violating the law, but they can pull you over for a suspicion of violating the law.
Take a DUI checkpoint/drivers license check where they are stopping every car, asking for a DL and in doing so assessing each driver for signs of DUI. If a car is coming up to the checkpoint and turns around before going through, you can bet your last dollar one of those cops is going to pursue and pull the car over. Why? Because it will give them a suspicion that there is a reason you don't want to get checked. That right there could be the basis for an evading charge, even if you haven't had a drink in 10 years and just had your DL renewed the week before.
Check stops have passed constitutional muster because those stops treat everyone equally (I disagree with this logic, but it *has* been blessed by the Supremes).
I don't think a cop pulling an individual over because the cop has a "hunch" would pass constitutional muster. They can pull you over on something more detailed (a known tag number, a vehicle model/year/color identified in participation of a crime, etc), but "hey, when I looked at that guy he turned his head and avoided looking at me, that ain't right, let me pull him over and see what I can find" would get thrown out of court every hour of every day.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 7:13 pm to beatbammer
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I don't think a cop pulling an individual over because the cop has a "hunch" would pass constitutional muster. They can pull you over on something more detailed (a known tag number, a vehicle model/year/color identified in participation of a crime, etc), but "hey, when I looked at that guy he turned his head and avoided looking at me, that ain't right, let me pull him over and see what I can find" would get thrown out of court every hour of every day.
Stop and frisk in NYC seems unconstitutional to me, but since it has reduced crime, I guess people look the other way.
Also, there's "stop-and-identify" laws in 24 states. If a cop asks for ID (even if you're on foot) you have to show it. The cop is supposed to have "reasonable suspicion" of a crime, but that's pretty fuzzy and I am sure it's abused.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:40 pm to beatbammer
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The keys on those old flip-phones are tricky.
Yea, I pretty much quit all mobile communications after my last post. My wife made me. Something about Don Julio and wiping out the Angry birds game. I will
report later.
Maybe
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:11 am to LanierSpots
Any word on punishment?
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:13 am to atlau
Ugh this bump, come on man. I just read the word "arrested" again and about shite myself
I just read the word "arrested" again and about shite myself 
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