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re: Malzahn not naming starting qb
Posted on 10/4/15 at 10:20 am to Blizzard of Chizz
Posted on 10/4/15 at 10:20 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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My overall impression is that he is limiting Sean not because he lacks ability, but because he is trying to avoid a qb controversy. Remember JJ still has another year left, and he has all the physical tools needed for GM's offense. I'm sure there is some thinking that they can correct all of this next spring and go into 2016 with JJ as the starter. The only problem with that plan is if you really open the offense up and allow Sean to run it, what do you do if he really shines? It's all about leaving the door open for JJ to be the starting qb in 2016. If Sean shines or at the least shows he is effective, then JJ probably transfers.
I can say I *hope* you are wrong here.
But I can't say you *are* wrong here.
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 10:22 am to golfntiger32
I saw Gus run the ball between the tackles with at least 9 men in the box several times yesterday.
Gus still thinks this is 2013 when we could tell the other team "here we come" and they couldn't stop us.
We are far, far, far from that 2013 team. We can't afford to announce our play call and then expect the other team to bend and submit. Gus doesn't seem to realize that.
Gus still thinks this is 2013 when we could tell the other team "here we come" and they couldn't stop us.
We are far, far, far from that 2013 team. We can't afford to announce our play call and then expect the other team to bend and submit. Gus doesn't seem to realize that.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 10:35 am to marshallcotiger
quote:wtf are you talking about? You mean the pass that was caught by Ricardo Louis and the one that Jason Smith dropped that was on the money? FFS we havent even let White throw the damn ball and when he has, its been on time and accurate. Not his fault his WR drop the passes.
Ive seen him attempt 3 now and I'm inclined to agree with him
Posted on 10/4/15 at 10:44 am to higgs_boson
I was going to start a new thread on our but this one will suffice. IMO our problem on offense is we aren't running the ball downhill enough. This is 100% on Gus. He's trying to get too cute with our offense. I'm literally sitting down to eat, but I'm going to come back to this topic.
ETA: We can run the same offense we ran in 2013. I think White can be effective enough to execute our read to keep teams honest. I could write a thesis on the duck ups offensively that have led to us being in the position we're in, but if we get back to running the ball and to keep running it downhill we can do some things in our offense. Our passing game is fricking awful bc there is no flow within the offense. We're being forced to pass on obvious passing downs bc of shitty play calling on 1st & 2nd down. The speed sweep needs to practically taken out of the playbook. Also the WR screen needs to be set up with more than 1 fricking blocking WR on the perimeter. Duke can't block 3 people. There's too much commotion going on for our offense to be executed in a sound methodical manner.
ETA: We can run the same offense we ran in 2013. I think White can be effective enough to execute our read to keep teams honest. I could write a thesis on the duck ups offensively that have led to us being in the position we're in, but if we get back to running the ball and to keep running it downhill we can do some things in our offense. Our passing game is fricking awful bc there is no flow within the offense. We're being forced to pass on obvious passing downs bc of shitty play calling on 1st & 2nd down. The speed sweep needs to practically taken out of the playbook. Also the WR screen needs to be set up with more than 1 fricking blocking WR on the perimeter. Duke can't block 3 people. There's too much commotion going on for our offense to be executed in a sound methodical manner.
This post was edited on 10/4/15 at 11:52 am
Posted on 10/4/15 at 10:53 am to WarDamn101
The pass to smith was a poor throw... could he have caught?... sure, but if white puts it in front of him (not behind him), it's a touchdown.
I don't think you Guys realize how hard it is to be running full speed and try to catch a pass that's over the wrong shoulder.
I don't think you Guys realize how hard it is to be running full speed and try to catch a pass that's over the wrong shoulder.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 10:54 am to ChexMix
On the money?... what fricking game were you watching?.. 
Posted on 10/4/15 at 10:57 am to lowspark12
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On the money?... what fricking game were you watching?
Hitting the WR in the hands is not a good place to put a pass?
Posted on 10/4/15 at 10:57 am to lowspark12
For the record, that ball was far from a bad pass
Posted on 10/4/15 at 11:05 am to lowspark12
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The pass to smith was a poor throw... could he have caught?... sure, but if white puts it in front of him (not behind him), it's a touchdown.
actually, smith over ran the route and tried to adjust back to it. that is why the ball appeared behind him
Posted on 10/4/15 at 11:07 am to beatbammer
Just because a ball hits you in the hands doesn't meet it was a well thrown pass... if white places it IN FRONT of Smith, not behind him, it's six.
the placement was poor... to catch it would've been a hell of a play by smith
the placement was poor... to catch it would've been a hell of a play by smith
Posted on 10/4/15 at 11:08 am to Blizzard of Chizz
I honestly think JJ gives us the best shot long term b/c of the deep ball and his running ability. Yes, there will be more growing pains but I really think the kid would eventually figure it out.
This post was edited on 10/4/15 at 11:12 am
Posted on 10/4/15 at 11:12 am to Blizzard of Chizz
That may be.., Or whites arm isn't strong enough to hit smith in stride and it appears he overran it.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 11:12 am to beatbammer
Gus needs to do whatever is necessary to win THIS year. frick next year. If he is holding back for Next Year his arse should be fired now.
I think JJs biggest issue was confidence and leadership. A QB must have both. The OC needs to put the QB in a position to gain what he does not have. So I blame Lashlee and Malzahn for the offensive troubles. However, if its true that JJ just cant see beyond his primary receiver, then you have to go another direction.
I think JJs biggest issue was confidence and leadership. A QB must have both. The OC needs to put the QB in a position to gain what he does not have. So I blame Lashlee and Malzahn for the offensive troubles. However, if its true that JJ just cant see beyond his primary receiver, then you have to go another direction.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 11:23 am to lowspark12
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Just because a ball hits you in the hands doesn't meet it was a well thrown pass... if white places it IN FRONT of Smith, not behind him, it's six.
the placement was poor... to catch it would've been a hell of a play by smith
I am watching the game now and literally just rewound that play a few times looking at it. Not sure why, but as soon as White threw the ball, Smith slanted a bit to the inside and then had to adjust to get back to the ball. Either way it was over his outside shoulder but it would have been within 2' of being perfectly thrown had he ran straight instead of floating a yard or two inside as the ball was in the air and that was on a nearly 40 yard throw.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 11:23 am to lowspark12
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Just because a ball hits you in the hands doesn't meet it was a well thrown pass... if white places it IN FRONT of Smith, not behind him, it's six.
the placement was poor... to catch it would've been a hell of a play by smith
The point of a pass is for the QB to put the ball in the receivers hands.
The point of a catch is for the receiver to catch the balls that are placed into his hands.
To sit around and wait for perfection before you do your job is to LOSE.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 11:27 am to lowspark12
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the placement was poor.
Wrong.. The ball was put in the right place. If White puts it in front of Smith, and continues to lead him over the middle he is committing a cardinal sin of a qb. You never throw late down the middle of the field. When Smith gets to the hash he needs to get upfield and not continue at an angle over the middle. Doing so allows a safety to run underneath it. If you have one man beat, running towards the other safety is stupid. Smith over ran the route a couple steps too far inside and then had to adjust back to the hash.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 11:29 am to beatbammer
White is a better runner then JJ from what I've seen. Quicker out of the gate for sure and that's really what matters in the read option.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 11:36 am to AUtigR24
I just watched the Ricardo Louis long pass and it looked like it could have been called pass interference if the rest of the play didn't look so shitty from every angle. That play had the following:
- Ricardo got hit while White released the ball, that is why the ball looked so far overthrown. Lazy hitch and go route that never looked very good.
- Duke literally half arse jogging the play and not giving a single frick.
- Marcus Davis ran a short curl and then just stood there.
- Ricardo got hit while White released the ball, that is why the ball looked so far overthrown. Lazy hitch and go route that never looked very good.
- Duke literally half arse jogging the play and not giving a single frick.
- Marcus Davis ran a short curl and then just stood there.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 11:37 am to AUtigR24
Neither are fast enough to make the defense respect them .
Posted on 10/4/15 at 11:38 am to Warfarer
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- Duke literally half arse jogging the play and not giving a single frick.
- Marcus Davis ran a short curl and then just stood there.
Because it was a single read playcall. You can tell when Duke looked straight at Louis after a few seconds. That's why people call this offense "high school".
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