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re: Malzahn not naming starting qb

Posted on 10/4/15 at 6:56 am to
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12125 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 6:56 am to
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Malzahn still not ready to name White starter

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"I thought he competed; he did some good things," Malzahn said. "We'll take this thing week-to-week like we've been doing it. We're starting to kind of get good answers to the questions that we needed."


If JJ starts against Kentucky I will abandon all hope



If he benches Sean White and starts JJ against Kentucky with JJ not having earned it at all, he will lose the whole team. They will see how partial he is to a player instead of doing what needs to be done to win games as a team. This season is completely lost if JJ starts.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30838 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 7:08 am to
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They both suck...but at least JJ doesn't have training wheels on.


This is where I'm at. JJ might turn it over 3 times but at least he gives us a chance if he doesn't turn the ball over (big IF I know) but I think it's a chance we have to take.

We can not beat any of the decent teams left on our schedule running the ball 50 times and throwing swing passes all game.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 7:23 am to
Why are we arguing about this? SW has played serviceable. If we loose the fumbles many on here would be singing a different tune. JJ also played serviceable if those 6 interceptions had been dropped.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18151 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 7:42 am to
I saw 6 of 10 passing, two drops, one drop would have been a TD, one miscommunication. I saw a huge throw at the end of the half. I saw a coaching staff throw the ball twice in the second half and let the other team get back in it. I was at the game, so you get a different perspective. But Sean competes, the offense is more fluid and he runs better than JJ.
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
13476 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 7:46 am to
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I saw 6 of 10 passing, two drops, one drop would have been a TD, one miscommunication. I saw a huge throw at the end of the half. I saw a coaching staff throw the ball twice in the second half and let the other team get back in it. I was at the game, so you get a different perspective. But Sean competes, the offense is more fluid and he runs better than JJ.


I agree. gus has to give Sean a chance.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41103 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 7:51 am to
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Said it in the other thread that Gus doesn't think White can throw the deep ball. Ive seen him



Really? We threw the ball (10) times yesterday. fricking (10) times.


The one deep ball I remember him throwing was the Jason Smith. It was slightly off target (over the inside shoulder and not the outside shoulder), but it hit the WR in the nada and he dropped it. Not sure about any other throws.

TBH, it looks like Gus is either scared to let White do anything or is holding him back until later in the season. I can't decide which it is.
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
13476 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:00 am to
Also had a predetermined out and up where the other two receivers didn't even run routes. And there was a jump ball to duke that was defended well.
Posted by BoTiger
Member since Sep 2015
23 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:24 am to
Exactly......I've wondered the same thing. White plays his heart out but we needed a true dual-threat QB with an real arm. Gus has set us up for failure trying to prove he doesn't need a running QB for this offense to be successful. Gus's ego will be his downfall.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19036 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:27 am to
My overall impression is that he is limiting Sean not because he lacks ability, but because he is trying to avoid a qb controversy. Remember JJ still has another year left, and he has all the physical tools needed for GM's offense. I'm sure there is some thinking that they can correct all of this next spring and go into 2016 with JJ as the starter. The only problem with that plan is if you really open the offense up and allow Sean to run it, what do you do if he really shines? It's all about leaving the door open for JJ to be the starting qb in 2016. If Sean shines or at the least shows he is effective, then JJ probably transfers.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19036 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:32 am to
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Really? We threw the ball (10) times yesterday. fricking (10) times.


I said yesterday that the weather would give Gus a reason not to throw. I knew he would keep it on the ground and not take chances. The problem with that though is we need to work on our passing game. Instead we put it off for another day, another game instead of taking advantage of real game situations to get better. We know Barber can run, but just pounding him all game does not make us a better team.
Posted by 3 Dimes Down
Chattanooga
Member since Jun 2014
385 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:32 am to
That seems like a win for everyone. JJ obviously couldn't handle the pressure of being THE man. He may have a chance with less exposure. Shady White has looked better running and passing w limited opportunities.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41103 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:37 am to
Exactly. White needs some live reps throwing the ball. I'm not sure why we weren't trying to score 1,000 points yesterday. Its mind boggling.
Posted by BoTiger
Member since Sep 2015
23 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:39 am to
The passing game needs a shirt load of work and we squandered a great opportunity to do so.
This post was edited on 10/4/15 at 8:43 am
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22669 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:44 am to
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My overall impression is that he is limiting Sean not because he lacks ability, but because he is trying to avoid a qb controversy. Remember JJ still has another year left, and he has all the physical tools needed for GM's offense. I'm sure there is some thinking that they can correct all of this next spring and go into 2016 with JJ as the starter. The only problem with that plan is if you really open the offense up and allow Sean to run it, what do you do if he really shines? It's all about leaving the door open for JJ to be the starting qb in 2016. If Sean shines or at the least shows he is effective, then JJ probably transfers.




If he's limiting a QB for these reasons, then he needs to be canned right now. These are moronic reasons to limiting what you're calling for a QB.
Posted by AUTiger45
The Ham
Member since Oct 2013
4043 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:47 am to
half way through the season and this a-hole is talking about how we are STARTING to get answers...I am now officially in the "this a-hole is in over his head" group. this abortion is looking more pathetic by the minute and every minuscule semblance of progress on the field seems to be overtaken by our coaches clueless comments. this guy is pissing me off.
Posted by golfntiger32
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
12486 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:48 am to
frick Gus, defenses have played us the same way all season. He is refusing to let the QB throw downfield. White only had 10 attempts in the game.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19036 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:50 am to
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These are moronic reasons to limiting what you're calling for a QB


As moronic as the play calling has been? I don't know how else to explain a 1 receiver pass route. I don't know how to explain not feeding an incredible talent like Duke the football. He wants the damn ball, give it to him!! Who gives a shite if he has a bad attitude? I would be a bitch too if I had first round talent and you couldn't get me the ball more than a couple times a game. ..... And short of a monsoon yesterday I would have slung the rock around the damn field and gotten White as many passing reps as possible before going into Kentucky.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22669 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:51 am to
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As moronic as the play calling has been? I don't know how else to explain a 1 receiver pass route. I don't know how to explain not feeding an incredible talent like Duke the football. He wants the damn ball, give it to him!! Who gives a shite if he has a bad attitude? I would be a bitch too if I had first round talent and you couldn't get me the ball more than a couple times a game. ..... And short of a monsoon yesterday I would have slung the rock around the damn field and gotten White as many passing reps as possible before going into Kentucky.


Completely agree with all of that.
Posted by slacker130
Your mom
Member since Jul 2010
7996 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 9:42 am to
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He has below average arm strength.


The sample size of passes is too small to make that assessment. The pass to Smith looked pretty good to me. I'm not saying he has tremendous arm strength, I'm just saying he hasn't had the opportunity to show it at this point.

ETA- I agree that yesterday was the perfect opportunity for live passing reps.
This post was edited on 10/4/15 at 9:46 am
Posted by AUX3
Member since Dec 2010
3447 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 9:55 am to
It's all play calling. This offensive staff has managed to ruin Jeremy and train a passing QB like White to not throw the ball.

This team is playing scared to screw up and everybody is pressing.

Time to relax and play- Gus offense is supposed to be fun- it looks boring and painful at the moment.
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