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Let's have a serious discussion about possible coaches
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:34 pm
I'm taking my info from this Coaches Hot Seat
It's a great resource if you've never looked.
First, Gus Malzahn comes in at #27 based on overall winning percentage.
Next, forget about WHO makes the hire. We all know general consensus is AU needs someone other than Jacobs to make this hire.
With that in mind, let's not bother with coaches who have under 3 years of head coaching experience. The last two coaches AU hired had a combined 3 years total of head coaching experience. Recently, a lot of schools have taken chances on coordinators or brand new HCs and in few cases has it been successful. Also, I've tried to remove coaches who have a high winning percentage, but have sucked in recent years and those who are too old (Dantonio)
Next, let's remove coaches who aren't leaving their current schools: Meyer, Chris Peterson, Fisher (likely not), Saban, Dabo, Richt, Patterson, Franklin, Harbaugh, and David Shaw.
Names you have left who are above Gus in winning %:
Jeff Brohm (Purdue) seems to be at the top of a lot of people's lists.
Petrino - would he come back and would he really be a slam-dunk hire?
Harsin (Boise) - not sure if he has a connection to Boise.
Whittingham (Utah) - Has been at Utah a long time. Likely had other offers, but hasn't left.
Now, you're looking at coaches who have a worse winning percentage (#'s 28-75) than Gus. The names that continue to be mentioned.
Mullen: I don't care about winning that much. It would be really hard to root for AU with him on the sidelines.
PJ Fleck: Did well at W Mich, but how would he do in the SEC?
Charlie Strong - Maybe. It's hard to look at his Texas record bc that program is even more dysfunctional behind the scenes than AU's.
Justin Fuente
Muschamp - he might be growing as a HC, but I'm not sure I'm ready to take that chance.
The one coach I'm intrigued by who is listed lower than #75 is Derek Mason. He has Vandy trending in the right direction. I think the game against Bama this weekend is going to tell a lot about his coaching ability.
Doesn't seem to be a lot to choose from if you're basing your decision on recent success.
If AU looks to hire a new coach, who is your choice and why? Do we take another chance on someone without much head coaching experience or do we go the promising coordinator route?
It's a great resource if you've never looked.
First, Gus Malzahn comes in at #27 based on overall winning percentage.
Next, forget about WHO makes the hire. We all know general consensus is AU needs someone other than Jacobs to make this hire.
With that in mind, let's not bother with coaches who have under 3 years of head coaching experience. The last two coaches AU hired had a combined 3 years total of head coaching experience. Recently, a lot of schools have taken chances on coordinators or brand new HCs and in few cases has it been successful. Also, I've tried to remove coaches who have a high winning percentage, but have sucked in recent years and those who are too old (Dantonio)
Next, let's remove coaches who aren't leaving their current schools: Meyer, Chris Peterson, Fisher (likely not), Saban, Dabo, Richt, Patterson, Franklin, Harbaugh, and David Shaw.
Names you have left who are above Gus in winning %:
Jeff Brohm (Purdue) seems to be at the top of a lot of people's lists.
Petrino - would he come back and would he really be a slam-dunk hire?
Harsin (Boise) - not sure if he has a connection to Boise.
Whittingham (Utah) - Has been at Utah a long time. Likely had other offers, but hasn't left.
Now, you're looking at coaches who have a worse winning percentage (#'s 28-75) than Gus. The names that continue to be mentioned.
Mullen: I don't care about winning that much. It would be really hard to root for AU with him on the sidelines.
PJ Fleck: Did well at W Mich, but how would he do in the SEC?
Charlie Strong - Maybe. It's hard to look at his Texas record bc that program is even more dysfunctional behind the scenes than AU's.
Justin Fuente
Muschamp - he might be growing as a HC, but I'm not sure I'm ready to take that chance.
The one coach I'm intrigued by who is listed lower than #75 is Derek Mason. He has Vandy trending in the right direction. I think the game against Bama this weekend is going to tell a lot about his coaching ability.
Doesn't seem to be a lot to choose from if you're basing your decision on recent success.
If AU looks to hire a new coach, who is your choice and why? Do we take another chance on someone without much head coaching experience or do we go the promising coordinator route?
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:38 pm to atlau
I want zero to do with Boom again. That ship has sailed. Same with Petrino.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:41 pm to atlau
Petrino is a no-go for me. And not because he's an unreliable a-hole of a human being, either.
As I stated in another thread, he just lost his 10th game in 29 tries with Lamar Jackson on his roster. In the ACC, no less.
I'll reserve judgement on the other names for now, but Petrino would be a huge mistake. I'd hang on to Gustav rather than hire him.
As I stated in another thread, he just lost his 10th game in 29 tries with Lamar Jackson on his roster. In the ACC, no less.
I'll reserve judgement on the other names for now, but Petrino would be a huge mistake. I'd hang on to Gustav rather than hire him.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:41 pm to atlau
1) Jeff Brohm (Purdue) seems to be at the top of a lot of people's lists. This guy will not be at Purdue next year...
2) Big Game Bob
3) Chip
4)Gus after 8-4
5) Mason Vandy
6) Who cares who we get, but probable someone like Stoops from UK
Will NEVER happen
Petrino, did you see them play Clemson. Gus beat him head to head... Over the hill.. jet gate... not worth the risk.
2) Big Game Bob
3) Chip
4)Gus after 8-4
5) Mason Vandy
6) Who cares who we get, but probable someone like Stoops from UK
Will NEVER happen
Petrino, did you see them play Clemson. Gus beat him head to head... Over the hill.. jet gate... not worth the risk.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:44 pm to allin2010
Solid list. I see no way Gus gets fired. What would be the reason? Losing to the number 2 team by one score? This is assuming the season goes as expected (possibly 2-3 more loses). Logically, we are playing as expected with a new OC, OL, and a QB who hasn't played in two years.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:45 pm to atlau
Mullen to TAMU may already be a done deal.
He does more with less every year. He will not be at MSU in the Spring. I know there was the kerfuffle with the Cam Newton stuff, but it wouldn’t hurt my feelings if we snagged him.
It would be a major upgrade offensively from what we have now in several respects; he will cost less than some coaches; he knows SEC recruiting; and we will be competitive.
Mullen would be high on my list. We went undefeated with the last coach we snagged from Mississippi. I’m optimistic we could do a repeat.
He does more with less every year. He will not be at MSU in the Spring. I know there was the kerfuffle with the Cam Newton stuff, but it wouldn’t hurt my feelings if we snagged him.
It would be a major upgrade offensively from what we have now in several respects; he will cost less than some coaches; he knows SEC recruiting; and we will be competitive.
Mullen would be high on my list. We went undefeated with the last coach we snagged from Mississippi. I’m optimistic we could do a repeat.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:47 pm to PrisonMike
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Mullen
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I know there was the kerfuffle with the Cam Newton stuff
Honestly, that's only a little bit of why I don't want him. I just don't see his schtick flying at AU. The yeezies and especially the "school up north" would grate on my nerves. I realize the shoes might resonate with players, but I'd rather have a coach who isn't as gimmicky. Again, see how Derek Mason coaches and connects with his players.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:48 pm to atlau
quote:let's hear more about this one
Justin Fuente
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:50 pm to atlau
Gus is losing the team. There are several signs. He needs to go.
Let’s stay focused on his replacement (at least in this thread).
Let’s stay focused on his replacement (at least in this thread).
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:52 pm to atlau
I like mason a lot. Maybe Fuente too.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:57 pm to PearlJam
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Justin Fuente
quote:
let's hear more about this one
Coaching career
2001–2003 Illinois State (QB)
2004–2006 Illinois State (OC/QB)
2007–2008 TCU (RB)
2009–2011 TCU (Co-OC/QB)
2012–2015 Memphis
2016–present Virginia Tech
HC Record
Memphis
2012 - 4-8
2013 - 3-9
2014 - 10-3
2015 - 9-3
Va Tech
2016 - 10-4
2017 - 3-0
On paper, record looks good. However, I would be curious to know how he is as a recruiter. Was the success of his 2014 and 2016 seasons because of players who someone else recruited? 2016, likely. I'm not sure about 2014.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:57 pm to PrisonMike
My candidates...
Derek Mason (Vanderbilt)
Joe Moorhead (Penn State OC)
Jeff Brohm (Purdue)
PF Fleck (Minnesota)
Steve Sarkisian (NFL - Atlanta OC)
Sean Peyton (NFL - New Orleans)
My long shot candidates are...
David Shaw (Stanford)
Chris Petersen (Washington)
Derek Mason (Vanderbilt)
Joe Moorhead (Penn State OC)
Jeff Brohm (Purdue)
PF Fleck (Minnesota)
Steve Sarkisian (NFL - Atlanta OC)
Sean Peyton (NFL - New Orleans)
My long shot candidates are...
David Shaw (Stanford)
Chris Petersen (Washington)
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 9/19/17 at 4:07 pm to AUNashville
Joe Moorhead (Penn State OC) - Tell me more
Steve Sarkisian (NFL - Atlanta OC) - Wondering why based on his record as a HC
Sean Peyton (NFL - New Orleans) - I'd be hesitant because it's been a long time since he coached college and no collegiate HC experience.
Steve Sarkisian (NFL - Atlanta OC) - Wondering why based on his record as a HC
Sean Peyton (NFL - New Orleans) - I'd be hesitant because it's been a long time since he coached college and no collegiate HC experience.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 9/19/17 at 4:10 pm to atlau
Bobby Petrino. Let's do this.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 4:12 pm to atlau
I think Larry Fedora would be a good hire or Bill Clark
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 9/19/17 at 4:12 pm to AUNashville
quote:I don't get the infatuation.
David Shaw (Stanford)
He's not going anywhere.
He played at Stanford.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 4:22 pm to TTsTowel
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I don't get the infatuation. He's not going anywhere. He played at Stanford.
Same was said for several other coaches who ended up leaving a school they appeared to be highly attached to. I'll admit he'd be a hard one to coax away from Stanford, but I don't think it's anywhere close to impossible.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 9/19/17 at 4:49 pm to atlau
Jeff Brohm (Purdue) - Might be a solid hire. He did well at WKU, and seems to be doing well now.
Petrino - I think the ship has sailed here. He would develop the hell out of a QB though.
Harsin (Boise) - I'm not sure about this one in the sense that I'm not sure he'd leave Boise State--kind of like the Petersen situation a few years ago.
Whittingham (Utah) - I only know what I've seen of Utah, and don't know much about his family life. He seems like he's been at Utah forever, so something tells me he wants to stay there.
Mullen - Good coach. Does more with less. I may can get behind this one.
PJ Fleck - I want to see what he does with Minnesota this year.
Charlie Strong - No. Strong looked good at Louisville, but i don't know if that was because of the team he had, competition, or what. I'm also concerned that his USF looks rusty.
Justin Fuente - I liked him a few years back. He's done well everywhere he's been. I wonder if Auburn can snatch him from Blacksburg.
Muschamp - no. let SC keep Boom.
Others that have been mentioned (non-NFL, non-coordinators)
Bob Stoops - Interesting. Why did he really leave Oklahoma? He would be a thorn in Saban's side.
Derek Mason - Mason is doing well with Vandy. Let's see how he plays out this year.
David Shaw - I believe this is a long shot. Also, Stanford seems to be regressing.
Chris Petersen - Another long shot.
eta: Strong correction. Thanks Nash.
Petrino - I think the ship has sailed here. He would develop the hell out of a QB though.
Harsin (Boise) - I'm not sure about this one in the sense that I'm not sure he'd leave Boise State--kind of like the Petersen situation a few years ago.
Whittingham (Utah) - I only know what I've seen of Utah, and don't know much about his family life. He seems like he's been at Utah forever, so something tells me he wants to stay there.
Mullen - Good coach. Does more with less. I may can get behind this one.
PJ Fleck - I want to see what he does with Minnesota this year.
Charlie Strong - No. Strong looked good at Louisville, but i don't know if that was because of the team he had, competition, or what. I'm also concerned that his USF looks rusty.
Justin Fuente - I liked him a few years back. He's done well everywhere he's been. I wonder if Auburn can snatch him from Blacksburg.
Muschamp - no. let SC keep Boom.
Others that have been mentioned (non-NFL, non-coordinators)
Bob Stoops - Interesting. Why did he really leave Oklahoma? He would be a thorn in Saban's side.
Derek Mason - Mason is doing well with Vandy. Let's see how he plays out this year.
David Shaw - I believe this is a long shot. Also, Stanford seems to be regressing.
Chris Petersen - Another long shot.
eta: Strong correction. Thanks Nash.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 9/19/17 at 4:53 pm to Jyrdis
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Jeff Brohm (Purdue) - Might be a solid hire. He did well at WKU, and seems to be doing well now. Petrino - I think the ship has sailed here. He would develop the hell out of a QB though. Harsin (Boise) - I'm not sure about this one in the sense that I'm not sure he'd leave Boise State--kind of like the Petersen situation a few years ago. Whittingham (Utah) - I only know what I've seen of Utah, and don't know much about his family life. He seems like he's been at Utah forever, so something tells me he wants to stay there. Mullen - Good coach. Does more with less. I may can get behind this one. PJ Fleck - I want to see what he does with Minnesota this year. Charlie Strong - No. Strong looked good at Cincinnati, but i don't know if that was because of the team he had, competition, or what. I'm also concerned that his USF looks rusty. Justin Fuente - I liked him a few years back. He's done well everywhere he's been. I wonder if Auburn can snatch him from Blacksburg. Muschamp - no. let SC keep Boom. Others that have been mentioned (non-NFL, non-coordinators) Bob Stoops - Interesting. Why did he really leave Oklahoma? He would be a thorn in Saban's side. Derek Mason - Mason is doing well with Vandy. Let's see how he plays out this year. David Shaw - I believe this is a long shot. Also, Stanford seems to be regressing. Chris Petersen - Another long shot.
Honest mistake...I think you meant Louisville.
Does anyone else feel as though Strong was never given the opportunity to succeed at Texas?
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 9/19/17 at 4:57 pm to AUNashville
All of Strong's teams play sloppy.
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