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re: i think blake is our guy
Posted on 9/8/14 at 3:53 pm to chattabama
Posted on 9/8/14 at 3:53 pm to chattabama
I respect your opinion, even if we don't see eye-eye on everything. We all just want to win at the end of the day.
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 4:00 pm to Funky Tide 8
Roll TidePosted on 9/8/14 at 4:02 pm to chattabama
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Do you think that UF will respect Sims as a deep threat or will they make him beat them with his arm? Can he?
I pray UF, Ole Miss, A&M, Rocky Top, LSU and Aubie believe this stuff the same way you guys do.
He has shown he can throw the ball deep, his receivers (well only one) kept dropping it. I pray they play us on the line and let us burn them a couple times deep. It will rattle their defense to the core.
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Are you saying you genuinely think that Sims can make every throw? I'm not saying he is Jordan Jefferson, but I don't see elite arm strength.
Every throw we need him to make? Yes. Yes he can.
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Coker looked sloppy at times, good at others. His first game reminded me of AJ's except Coker hasn't had an interception. I think Sims is better now, but given more time Coker would be better by LSU, auburn, and maybe even the SECCG, playoff, and final. I think Sims is near his ceiling. What he can do he does very well, but I question if what he can do is enough against the elite defenses of tSEC.
You base your entire argument on "what if!" and "maybe!".
I base mine on the reality. Sims has shown something Coker has not. Period.
I am still waiting on those statistics and proof that Coker can play well against top defenses. If you can use A-Day to bash Sims, please use the 2013 appearances of Coker and tell us all how he did?
Posted on 9/8/14 at 4:08 pm to chattabama
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Backup time he didn't do very well at FSU, however it's expected that he has gotten better.
How is it expected? He didn't play any football between the back up time where he didn't play well for FSU and camp with us.
So when did he get better against an actual 11?
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I am hoping for the same improvement from Coker.
This just isn't his year. Sims has done everything asked and did it well. He has earned this position. I don't get why people can't just get behind him?
IMO, Coker has next season. I hope by that time he can be as mentally prepared as his arm is physically strong.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 4:18 pm to YStar
If Sims has done everything perfectly as you say, why didn't CNS take the opportunity to name him the starter today? Before you say it's because of the fans/media, Saban gives zero fricks what we think. If he did he would've signed his contract sooner, benched Vinnie in favor of Landon, etc.
Could it be that the coaching staff is waiting to see how Blake responds to UF?
Could it be that the coaching staff is waiting to see how Blake responds to UF?
Posted on 9/8/14 at 4:42 pm to chattabama
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If Sims has done everything perfectly as you say, why didn't CNS take the opportunity to name him the starter today? Before you say it's because of the fans/media, Saban gives zero fricks what we think. If he did he would've signed his contract sooner, benched Vinnie in favor of Landon, etc
Did I say he did everything perfectly or everything he was asked??
Also, I realize you feel Saban could give zero fricks but Saban isn't a fool. He knows damn well how sensitive this QB situation is to our fanbase and media. I think he doesn't want to announce Sims because he like always is trying to control the situation. Coker is going to be here two seasons. There is no point destroying the guy (doesn't seems the strongest mentally) when he knows he will need him next season. This season he just is not ready.
Oh and....
- He didn't bench Vinnie for Landon, because Vinnie like Sims was balling. Why bench the better in-form player?
- You can't compare a safety situation to the QB situation in terms of media and fan reaction. QB is a different position, the leadership position and it has a stereotype for blacks who play it. The same can not be said for safety.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 4:56 pm to YStar
Saban isn't going to announce a starter most likely bc he wants teams to have to prepare for both guys
Posted on 9/8/14 at 5:00 pm to YStar
I was using the safety situation as an example where Saban acted contrary to the fans wishes. I liked Vinnie, but if you would have polled Bama fans they would have liked to see more Collins. But Saban gives zero fricks about it.
What does it matter in saying that Sims is the starter? Saban doesn't care about the feelings of a backup. What's Coker going to do? Quit football altogether if Saban names Sims the starter? Isn't like he can transfer anywhere else now. Plus if the situation is as settled as you say, why give up precious starting reps that your new quarterback needs to be successful just to not hurt someone's feelings? Isn't worth it. If Sims is the starter he needs all of the reps possible to get ready for UF and Ole Miss.
What are the media/fans going to do? Revolt? Saban could name Amari Cooper starting qb tomorrow and what could we do about it? Jack shite. People aren't going to stop giving to the university or going to games if Sims is the starter. If anything it would unite the fans by telling us who it's going to be so we can fully get behind that guy.
The 2011 schedule set up perfectly for the qb battle in that we got to see AJ respond to a hostile environment against a quality team. With this qb battle we are having to guess what would happen if he faced adversity. UF and LSU have eaten alive better qbs than Sims before (the 2012 Heisman winner comes to mind) How do we know that the same won't happen to Sims agains UF? We don't know how he will respond until he's put in that position.
Not that it matters, but if this were 2009 or 2011 where we had a salty defense I would support Sims, as his play so far would be more than enough to manage the game. This year we need higher production at the qb position to be successful.
What does it matter in saying that Sims is the starter? Saban doesn't care about the feelings of a backup. What's Coker going to do? Quit football altogether if Saban names Sims the starter? Isn't like he can transfer anywhere else now. Plus if the situation is as settled as you say, why give up precious starting reps that your new quarterback needs to be successful just to not hurt someone's feelings? Isn't worth it. If Sims is the starter he needs all of the reps possible to get ready for UF and Ole Miss.
What are the media/fans going to do? Revolt? Saban could name Amari Cooper starting qb tomorrow and what could we do about it? Jack shite. People aren't going to stop giving to the university or going to games if Sims is the starter. If anything it would unite the fans by telling us who it's going to be so we can fully get behind that guy.
The 2011 schedule set up perfectly for the qb battle in that we got to see AJ respond to a hostile environment against a quality team. With this qb battle we are having to guess what would happen if he faced adversity. UF and LSU have eaten alive better qbs than Sims before (the 2012 Heisman winner comes to mind) How do we know that the same won't happen to Sims agains UF? We don't know how he will respond until he's put in that position.
Not that it matters, but if this were 2009 or 2011 where we had a salty defense I would support Sims, as his play so far would be more than enough to manage the game. This year we need higher production at the qb position to be successful.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 5:03 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
And you don't think UF would prepare for both guys if we announced it? Something could happen to Sims, injury, doesn't play well, other reasons why he could be out. If Muschamp is half the defensive coach we think he is then his preparations don't rely on Saban's press conferences. Muschamp would prepare for both qbs either way.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 6:56 pm to chattabama
Rewatching the FAU game. I'm at the 7:51 mark in the second quarter. So far Coker's numbers aren't special, but just a few notes.
- Deep ball to Stewart was fine. Coop was wide open and if Coop is wide open you fit him, but if you've got a guy behind the D air it out. Coker overthrows him, but what have we been saying for a while now? He's gonna have mistakes like that until he gets reps.
- The throw to Coop in the endzone was a prime example of what I just said. He doesn't have a lot of game experience, but as that comes, he'll do better. Ware explained it perfectly. Coop was on top, should have went to the back of the endzone.
- The deep throw to Coop off the boot was late or it could have been six. Another play that doesn't happen with experience. Shouldn't have thrown it when he did though.
- The throw to Fowler's feet was ugly.
So far he has started slow, but not as poorly as we were saying. A lot of it is just experience stuff. The talent is so obvious though, and if he gets a lot of reps this year, next year if we can break in some new starters at WR (though guys who will have played a lot this year) that 15 super team is gonna be explosive.
- Deep ball to Stewart was fine. Coop was wide open and if Coop is wide open you fit him, but if you've got a guy behind the D air it out. Coker overthrows him, but what have we been saying for a while now? He's gonna have mistakes like that until he gets reps.
- The throw to Coop in the endzone was a prime example of what I just said. He doesn't have a lot of game experience, but as that comes, he'll do better. Ware explained it perfectly. Coop was on top, should have went to the back of the endzone.
- The deep throw to Coop off the boot was late or it could have been six. Another play that doesn't happen with experience. Shouldn't have thrown it when he did though.
- The throw to Fowler's feet was ugly.
So far he has started slow, but not as poorly as we were saying. A lot of it is just experience stuff. The talent is so obvious though, and if he gets a lot of reps this year, next year if we can break in some new starters at WR (though guys who will have played a lot this year) that 15 super team is gonna be explosive.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 7:30 pm to chattabama
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If Sims has done everything perfectly as you say, why didn't CNS take the opportunity to name him the starter today?
Nick Saban is in a position where he doesn't have to name a starter in public. This leaves doubt for any team that is preparing to play us. In our situation, I think it's a pretty good strategy.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 7:42 pm to asphinctersayswhat
I agree. I think coach has thought this through and it might force Florida to gameplan for multiple offenses.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 8:08 pm to mwlewis
I understand it, but if Sims is 100% our guy then I'd rather he get 95% of the reps both in practice and against Southern Miss. In game decision making, practice calling plays in the huddle, contested long passes, dealing with defensive pressure, practice managing the clock are all more valuable to a starter than keeping Muschamp in the dark IMO, but my opinion and five dollars will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks 
I think Saban is using the no starter to keep both qbs motivated and also to give himself an out. All we heard in the spring was how much Sims improved. Then we saw a-day and even Saban claimed that Sims regressed from his previous performance all spring. Now we are seeing Blake Sims improve steadily through fall camp and into game action. Will we see the same regression when Sims is pressured? What will happen to Sims' composure when he meets Fowler firsthand? What will happen to him if, God forbid, we get behind by a couple scores? These are things nobody, including our coaches, know because it must be experienced to be known. Saban is known to be faithful to his qb through thick and thin (and there were plenty of thin times when McElroy was under center ) Maybe Saban isn't fully ready to commit to a starter until he can see for himself how Sims handles in game pressure.
I think Saban is using the no starter to keep both qbs motivated and also to give himself an out. All we heard in the spring was how much Sims improved. Then we saw a-day and even Saban claimed that Sims regressed from his previous performance all spring. Now we are seeing Blake Sims improve steadily through fall camp and into game action. Will we see the same regression when Sims is pressured? What will happen to Sims' composure when he meets Fowler firsthand? What will happen to him if, God forbid, we get behind by a couple scores? These are things nobody, including our coaches, know because it must be experienced to be known. Saban is known to be faithful to his qb through thick and thin (and there were plenty of thin times when McElroy was under center
) Maybe Saban isn't fully ready to commit to a starter until he can see for himself how Sims handles in game pressure.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 9:28 pm to Funky Tide 8
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We all just want to win at the end of the day
Which is what will happen...because we are BAMA.
frick the haters.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 9:54 pm to JordonfortheJ
play both. teams have to practice for both. both can help us to win. just let the team know its no longer a competition, its a gameplan.
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