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re: i think blake is our guy

Posted on 9/7/14 at 12:57 am to
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 12:57 am to
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And Sims played against WVU for his first game this year with their starting cornerback out, yet we are supposed to act as if he could tear apart SEC defenses


No, we are not. I do realize that he has shown that he can run the offense to produce a lot of yards and put points on the board.

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Meanwhile Coker has a similar game against FAU, but it was FAU.


Sims was damn near perfect against FAU, and threw for 214 yards on 13 passes.

Coker was just above 500 completion percentage wise, and got 200 yards on 24 passes.

There lies the difference.




Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 1:00 am to
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ehh, it was against FAU, dude. In the second half, against FAU. I am sorry if I'm largely underwhelmed.



Well now you're just having a double standard...WVU's D is probably arse, but you were fine with Sims' performance against them. And yes I know he had better numbers (though he had no TDs and an INT vs WVU, Coker had a TD and no INTs vs FAU), but you have to keep in mind that Sims has/had way better chemistry and timing with the receivers, and Coker had to deal with rain on a few of his throws, plus he was throwing deeper on average than Sims did vs WVU.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 1:03 am to
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Sims was damn near perfect against FAU, and threw for 214 yards on 13 passes.

Coker was just above 500 completion percentage wise, and got 200 yards on 24 passes.

There lies the difference.


Sims threw a lot more higher percentage throws. Also, this was Sims second start that he improved upon from a week ago. This was Coker's first start. If Sims improved so much over one week, why can't Coker?

My question is this: Kiffin wasn't afraid to call long bombs for Coker, why did he hesitate to do the same for Sims? Could it be that Kiffin doesn't think those long throws are comfortably within Sims range?

Posted by genro
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 1:06 am to
Sims has thrown several long passes.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 1:06 am to
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Well now you're just having a double standard...WVU's D is probably arse


they might be arse, but they arent near as bad as FAU.

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And yes I know he had better numbers (though he had no TDs and an INT vs WVU, Coker had a TD and no INTs vs FAU),


significantly better.


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Sims has/had way better chemistry and timing with the receivers,


and Coker doesnt have much chemistry with them at all. and that is worrisome. And I just cant see that really changing much. Not enough to be our starter this year, anyway.
Posted by chattabama
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 1:07 am to
And how many connected?
Posted by BigBird09
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 1:07 am to
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And Sims played against WVU for his first game 


WVU has a bad high-major defense. No denying that. BUT FAU's defense is one of the worst in the entire country... I think Coker could end up a terrific QB, but for right now it's pretty clear Sims gives us the best chance of winning...
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 1:09 am to
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Sims threw a lot more higher percentage throws.


Meh, Coker was having trouble completing those high percentage passes, and that was one of his big questions even before he got to Bama.

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why did he hesitate to do the same for Sims?


Like genro said, he has thrown several down field passes so far.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 1:09 am to
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I think Coker could end up a terrific QB, but for right now it's pretty clear Sims gives us the best chance of winning...



Im not ready to say this until I see a defense with a pulse. The last defense that Sims played that has a pulse was A-day, and we all know how that turned out.
Posted by chattabama
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 1:11 am to
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Like genro said, he has thrown several down field passes so far.


And hasn't been very successful with them save for the pass to Christion Jones today. And dont bring up the arm punt from WVU. That thing would have been intercepted by half of the defenses on our schedule.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 1:13 am to
AJ overthrew open passes every single game


AJ was also sometimes rattled or come out shaky, something Sims has yet to demonstrate and Coker already has

We won 2 NC's and were a freak play from a third with AJ

Sims can run with the ball and more importantly knows when to run with the ball and when to just step up. This is one of the biggest offensive weapons in modern college football.


Sims has been decent-to-great for 6 quarters.

Coker had been terrible-to-decent for 1 quarter.



This isn't a debate as far as I can see

Our quarterback is Blake Sims until further notice.

Roll Tide.
This post was edited on 9/7/14 at 1:18 am
Posted by Goombaw
Kentucky
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 1:16 am to
Who would you take right now? Blake Sims or Greg McElroy? Blake Sims or JPW? Both of those guys weren't great, but one won a ring and the other almost won a ring simply by putting the ball in the hands of the playmakers.

I've been very skeptical of Sims and pumped about Coker ever since it was confirmed that he was coming to Bama, but now I think that we can win with either QB, as long as our defense improves a little.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 1:20 am to
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Sims can run with the ball and more importantly knows when to run with the ball and when to just step up. This is one of the biggest offensive weapons in modern college football.


and it fricking pumps me to know that we have that in him. The dude is going to change games with his legs this year. Something that we've never had under Saban.
Posted by chattabama
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 1:22 am to
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AJ was also sometimes rattled or come out shaky, something Sims has yet to demonstrate and Coker already has


Yeah, Sims looked poised when he called the wrong plays in the huddle, had to have Kiffin call timeout so he wouldn't get a delay of game, is a fifth year senior in the same system who has to have the offensive coordinator spoon feed him the plays, hands off when he should have passed, etc. But, like you said, he hasn't looked shaky at all

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Sims has been decent-to-great for 6 quarters.


So we're pretending that A-day never happened? Cool.

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Coker had been terrible-to-decent for 1 quarter.


I wouldn't say terrible. How would Sims or any other quarterback look if he was playing his first snaps after being away from football for ten months due to injury?

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Open your damn eyes.

This isn't a debate.


Did Saban announce that the quarterback competition is officially over? I must have missed that.

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Roll Tide.


Roll Tide
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 1:24 am to
AJ was never rattled from the 2011 Auburn game on.

He was the victim of shitty pass pro in more games than people think. But rattled? He was one of the most poised/clutch QBs in SEC, maybe CFB, history. imo

But I'm not going to argue over it. If anyone disagrees, fine, I don't plan to argue.

Posted by Goombaw
Kentucky
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 1:26 am to
I'm probably being a crazy gump here, but when I watched Auburn tonight, after watching Bama today, I don't think that Nick Marshall has much, if anything, on Sims. Admittedly, we haven't seen Sims throw a deep ball very much. Still, I've been impressed and just a little excited about the extra dimension that a mobile QB adds to the offense.
Posted by harmonics
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 1:28 am to
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chattabama


What the frick is your problem? You are telling me AJ never had a communication problem during his first year as a starting qb after being with the program for 2+ years WITH THE SAME OC? Sims has a made a couple mistakes, but he always responds nicely.
This post was edited on 9/7/14 at 1:33 am
Posted by labamafan
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 1:29 am to
Don't get me wrong I think a consistent down field threat is necessary for this team to win the sec but as of now we can't win with Coker at the helm. He is simply not ready.
Posted by harmonics
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 1:30 am to
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AJ was never rattled from the 2011 Auburn game on


True, but with all due respect, AJ was awful in the LSU game in 2011, which was a big reason why Alabama lost.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 1:32 am to
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What the frick is your problem? You are telling me AJ never had a communication problem during his first year as a starting qb after being with the program for 2+ years WITH THE SAME OC? Sims has a made a couple mistakes, but he always responds nicely


I'm just pointing out that so many want to pin all of these negative things on Coker without acknowledging the same things in Sims. Sure, Coker has looked shaky, but Sims has in other aspects that he should be better at by now. I just want to see others give Coker just as much leeway as you are giving Sims.

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