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re: i think blake is our guy

Posted on 9/6/14 at 10:58 pm to
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/6/14 at 10:58 pm to
One thing that made me pretty mad though was when he threw short to TFS when it was pouring down rain. Saw someone say "don't use the rain as an excuse". Had half a mind to say "Let me throw a wet football at your chest and show you where it ends up hitting."
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50392 posts
Posted on 9/6/14 at 11:31 pm to
Yeah that was dumb. It just started raining and the ball clearly slipped out of his hands. Some folks are completely incapable of being impartial about this QB battle. I can't understand it.
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40847 posts
Posted on 9/6/14 at 11:37 pm to
Leave this here

Posted by Funky Tide 8
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52679 posts
Posted on 9/6/14 at 11:44 pm to
god FAU is horrible.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 9/6/14 at 11:45 pm to
His ability to run will give our offense something special. If you have to double Coop and commit a man to Sims, you lose. If you take away a rusher to stop Sims, he gets all day and you can't cover our weapons that long. If you take someone out of coverage to stop Sims, then someone who needs more attention than he's getting is probably running open.
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
7649 posts
Posted on 9/6/14 at 11:47 pm to
quote:

They will get burned.


By what? Even the staff has admitted they don't trust him beyond 20 yards, or in the center of the field. He completed one pass of each today, and it was the same throw. A inside post by Coop. And it was roughly 22 yds past the line of scrimmage and just inside the hash where coop caught it.

And no, the staff hasn't verbally stated it, but play calling tells you everything. Against a team who Sims could work on his deep ball against. They called him ONE, count em, ONE potential deep ball.

Coker opens up the offense in a way Sims cannot. Bubble and WR screens will not work as 45% of our offense, and 90% of our passing offense, when we get into league play.

I like Sims, he throws a tight ball, and he is accurate within his range. Has beautifully quick feet and does a fantastic job scrambling to keep a play alive. However, he isn't the guy we need. He is the guy we night have to deal with though.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 9/6/14 at 11:49 pm to
Here we go

Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 9/6/14 at 11:50 pm to
No reason to argue. He isn't completely right or wrong in anything he said. Respectable post.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 9/6/14 at 11:53 pm to
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However, he isn't the guy we need. He is the guy we night have to deal with though.


good lord.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 9/6/14 at 11:57 pm to
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because when he slings it, the ball is inaccurate


Coker hit at least three long bombs to perfection playing part time. McCarron would go through several games without having one connect.
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
7649 posts
Posted on 9/7/14 at 12:12 am to
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good lord.


What exactly is your problem with that statement? If he was more than a stop gap measure(a guy we have to deal with but isn't what we need) then why did we bring Coker in for in the first place?

Coker needs work, for sure. If we played LSU in five minutes, and I had to pick a QB, it would be Sims. Right this second. Coker needs more snaps, he hasn't played a snap that mattered since high school. Still hasn't really.

However, we need Coker to get those reps and improve. By the time we hit the meat of our schedule either Coker has taken over, or we struggle mightily to beat aTm, LSU, UF, and AU.



























I really, really hope I'm wrong. That we dominate no matter what.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65028 posts
Posted on 9/7/14 at 12:24 am to
quote:

Coker opens up the offense in a way Sims cannot. Bubble and WR screens will not work as 45% of our offense, and 90% of our passing offense, when we get into league play.



How does Coker open up the offense (at least at the present time) when he can't even COMPLETE a bubble screen?
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 9/7/14 at 12:29 am to
He can complete a regular screen pass pretty well. That one to Yeldon today reminded me of LSU 2012.

See the problem in this is perspective from both sides. Those who are pro-Sims act like Coker couldn't start for a Conference USA team, while a lot of those who support Coker are constantly trying to discredit Sims.

Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65028 posts
Posted on 9/7/14 at 12:35 am to
I am neither pro-Sims nor pro-Coker. I am pro-winning.

I have no problem with either QB. The best player should and will play. Right now...that best player (at least in my mind's eye) is obviously Blake Sims. Coker is very raw and very rusty. Sims is polished and confident. That could change as the season progresses. But for right now, at least in my estimation, Sims is the best QB on our roster.

It might not be what most fans wanted or predicted but there it is.


Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24264 posts
Posted on 9/7/14 at 12:38 am to
quote:

I like Sims, he throws a tight ball, and he is accurate within his range. Has beautifully quick feet and does a fantastic job scrambling to keep a play alive. However, he isn't the guy we need. He is the guy we night have to deal with though



Truth in this statement. Short passes against Florida and LSU will not keep their defense at bay. I stack the box against us and play tight on the corners. Sims had to get the ball down the field and the receivers need to stop dropping the few that he does throw. That doesn't help his confidence.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 9/7/14 at 12:41 am to
I don't get why anyone is pro anything other than Pro-Bama.

It baffles me to see people blindly hating on Sims and then also see people on the other site blindly hating on Coker.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 9/7/14 at 12:43 am to
I just don't like all of the discrediting of Coker that is happening with a lot of our fans. He had a completion percentage of 62% today with 0 ints and that was with attempting several long passes. Coker also had to deal with a few longer down and distances from penalties.

I think Bama could win with Sims, but I still have some questions. I don't think UF is going to give him the underneath throws that he has had. Will VH3 play off man against Cooper? Doubt it.

Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 12:46 am to
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He had a completion percentage of 62% today with 0 ints and that was with attempting several long passes. Coker also had to deal with a few
longer down and distances from penalties.


ehh, it was against FAU, dude. In the second half, against FAU. I am sorry if I'm largely underwhelmed.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 9/7/14 at 12:48 am to
Sims is benefitting from low expectations. Coker is suffering from high expectations. Sims has had more PT and it's more of a "what you see is what you get" situation. He has tremendous mobility and surprisingly very good pocket presence. He can step up, avoid the sack (what would be a sack with AJ or GM) and make a set throw without deferring to the run every time. Having a mobile qb who can still make that correct decision of when to run is a huge weapon. He is not very accurate, however he is very well-coached and has consistently erred on the side of the caution - putting it where either our guy gets it or no one does.

I think we can win big games with that. One of Kiffin's biggest philosophies, to me, seems to be if you keep getting your best athletes the ball quick in a one-on-one situation, they're bound to break a big play. Makes sense to me. I do think we can move the ball on anyone without added risk when you consider that is all what we're ultimately gonna ask of Sims, combined of course with our line and running game.


Since Coker is an unknown at best... And let's not kid ourselves - his first five passes or so were atrocious. At best he's a project, untapped potential. It has to be Sims.
This post was edited on 9/7/14 at 12:51 am
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 9/7/14 at 12:49 am to
quote:

ehh, it was against FAU, dude. In the second half, against FAU. I am sorry if I'm largely underwhelmed.


And Sims played against WVU for his first game this year with their starting cornerback out, yet we are supposed to act as if he could tear apart SEC defenses. Meanwhile Coker has a similar game against FAU, but it was FAU. Gotta love the double standard
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