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re: Anthony Grant will return, per Cecil Hurt

Posted on 3/14/14 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by TidenUP
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 2:15 pm to
Get ready for even more empty seats
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 2:18 pm to
Why are people surpised by this news?
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 2:38 pm to
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Engstom and Jacobs


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true post player




Engstrom is just terrible. He's like a camel on roller skates out there.

Taylor has potential, and is already better than Engstrom. Jacobs can't play defense and is very inconcistent scoring in the post
Posted by mre
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:15 pm to
I blame C. M. Newton.
Posted by bona fide
Burma
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:22 pm to
you don't think they are post players? What do you consider them, 3's, 2's, tweener?

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Engstrom is just terrible. He's like a camel on roller skates out there


OK, he is still a five

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Jacobs can't play defense and is very inconcistent scoring in the post


He shoots 53% for his career and 52% this year while very few of his shots are dunks. He does this while getting double and triple teamed because of no outside threat on team and no passing skills on his part. In a one on one situation down low, I would take him over the majority of the SEC post players.



Posted by Silverback
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:33 pm to
Here is the Email we got this afternoon.


Over the last year I have spent a fair amount of time with Coach Anthony Grant. I have watched our team practice. I have watched them play. We have had several philosophical discussions. In every meeting we have had, I came away impressed with his character, with his knowledge and belief in his approach to the game, with his commitment to win championships at Alabama, and with his ability to recruit and develop players, both on and off the court.
At this level of collegiate athletics there is a very fine line that separates winning and losing. The 2013-14 men’s basketball season has been a disappointing one. Many factors shape a season. We made some strategic decisions going into the year, both with scheduling and with players, that didn’t work out like we planned.
Our mission is to recruit and develop student athletes to compete at the highest levels in their sport; to educate and prepare those student athletes to compete at the highest levels in life after graduation; and to do both with honor and integrity. Our men’s basketball program is doing all of those things, but this season that did not translate into the level of success we all desire on the court.
According to the latest ESPN.com RPI rankings (as of March 11), Alabama’s 2013-14 schedule ranks second on the list of the nation’s difficult overall schedules. Sometimes a tough non-conference schedule toughens you up and prepares you for conference play; other times it shakes your confidence. Some years it seems you win most of the close games. Other years you can’t find a way to get over the hump. After three 20+ win seasons, this year we found ourselves in the latter category.
College basketball is in an interesting place in 2014. The power of the NCAA Tournament appears to have diminished interest in the regular season. The “one and done” rule has had a greater impact on the game than just those players that come and go after one year. The mindset of many players (and their parents and friends) is, “I’ll go pro after a year!” When that doesn’t happen, the mindset is often, “It can’t be my fault. It must be the system.” As a result there were some 500 players that transferred last year. These factors make recruiting and coaching college basketball players even more challenging, as it is difficult to build the senior-laden teams that were more prevalent in times past.
Without solid leadership, this year’s team could have folded at several points in the season. Coach Grant and his staff stayed the course and did not panic when things were going bad. The team continued to play with effort and competed hard, even after many of the preseason goals were out of reach. I am very proud of our strong finish, with our younger players stepping up their game. I am impressed with the development of our freshmen, Jimmie Taylor and Shannon Hale, encouraged about the leadership potential of our returning veterans, and looking forward to seeing a highly-rated group of signees join our team.
Off the court, Coach Grant’s teams have been very successful in the classroom, consistently averaging high NCAA Academic Progress Rate (APR) scores. Alabama leads all SEC men’s basketball programs in APR percentage and its APR ranks in the top 10 percent of all Division I men’s programs. We led all SEC men’s basketball programs in 2013 with six players named to the SEC Academic Honor Roll. In addition, every senior that has played for Coach Grant at Alabama has earned his degree.
When considering the overall health and direction of a program, all of the aforementioned factors need to be considered. Simply put, this is a program that is not adrift, and is not devoid of leadership and talent. I believe this is a program that has better days ahead.
The expectations of competing for championships and a high postseason finish remain. There is much that is right about our men’s basketball program at this time. Coach Grant has earned the chance to continue building this program into the winner that we all know it should be. He’s done it before. He can do it again.
We need your support in making that happen. I encourage you to rally around our team next season, to become a part of our success, and to help our team reach its potential.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:39 pm to
Posted by bona fide
Burma
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:42 pm to
thanks for posting


this is one of the main reasons I long ago thought Grant would be retained..

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The team continued to play with effort and competed hard,
Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:47 pm to
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Off the court, Coach Grant’s teams have been very successful in the classroom, consistently averaging high NCAA Academic Progress Rate (APR) scores. Alabama leads all SEC men’s basketball programs in APR percentage and its APR ranks in the top 10 percent of all Division I men’s programs. We led all SEC men’s basketball programs in 2013 with six players named to the SEC Academic Honor Roll. In addition, every senior that has played for Coach Grant at Alabama has earned his degree.
This is why they will never get rid of Grant. Doesn't matter what they do on the court.
Posted by bona fide
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:50 pm to
Gottfried had an excellent graduation rate.

I think he went several years graduating every player that stayed in the program


eta- I do agree that it does help Grant, along with many other variables
This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 3:52 pm
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 4:02 pm to
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you don't think they are post players?


No, not really. Being a tall person doesn't mean you're a true post player in a basketball sense. Engstrom is one of the worst college basketball players in the country.

I guess I'll give you Jacobs, but again he's never been anything to write home about. Not a good defender or rebounder, careless with the ball and doesn't seem to have much of a basketball IQ. Every now and then he shows flashes and has a decent repetoire of low post moves to score in the paint, but he isn't consistent. He doesn't bring it every night. We haven't had a true post player since Richard Hendrix, Jermareo Davidson, and Chuck Davis. Those guys were post players
Posted by bona fide
Burma
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 4:13 pm to
true post player = position played, not if they are good or not

If Carl and Jacobs don't return, Bama literally has only one post player on team. Guys like Hale and Cooper will be first in line to play the five when Taylor is out. Every coach in America would take and sometimes use Carl in that situation

Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 6:25 pm to
anyone know when does engstrom gets his degree? ...
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 6:36 pm to
@Marq_Burnett: Alabama center Carl Engstrom says he hasn't made a decision on if he'll return to the team next season. On track to graduate this year.
Posted by Bama323_15
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 7:20 pm to
That email seems like a desperate attempt to rationalize the decision that was made.

Battle disappoints.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 8:19 pm to
And in other news, Gottfried knocks off the 'cuse.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/15/14 at 5:25 pm to
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In a one on one situation down low, I would take him over the majority of the SEC post players.
I'm guessing you're talking about strictly offense. If not, you're fricking insane. Carl could get around Nick's defense. I wouldn't put him that far ahead of Carl. I'd take two new halfway decent post recruits over Carl and Nick.
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/15/14 at 5:33 pm to
I think he's saying he would take Jacobs to score on a one on one situation.
Posted by bona fide
Burma
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Posted on 3/15/14 at 6:31 pm to
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I'm guessing you're talking about strictly offense



I quoted and put in bold text what I was responding to...

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is very inconcistent scoring in the post



I did not address his comments on Jacobs' defense
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 6:51 am to
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Why are people surpised by this news?


No surprise here, just a lot of disappointment.

Unlike Mal, Battle seems to have no balls to make big decisions. Mal got rid of a guy one season removed from 6 year contract extension following a 10-2 season which lead to a Cotton bowl victory.

Battle just doesn't seem to have the balls to make the big decision.

Grant should be gone and everything should be done to bring Pearl here.
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