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re: Ultimate goals..

Posted on 1/3/20 at 12:32 pm to
Posted by Broncothor
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 12:32 pm to
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 12:37 pm to
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We almost made it last year because of the eye test


no we didn't. Either you're top 4 or you're not, there's no "almost" top 4. We had zero chance whatsoever of making it. Where we ended up after the top 4 is irrelevant.

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the resume test won out, which was obviously wrong as we now know.


what in the world does this mean? OU lost by 10 to bama in miami, we lost to them by 7 in atlanta. OU also won the big 12 by beating the team that publicly pulled our pants down.

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A team as good as uga 2018 isn’t left out of playoffs in any other level of football


that's not true at all. There have been plenty of teams in the pros (NFL, baseball, whatever) that were very good teams but didn't win their division and were beat out for a wildcard spot.

And again you're clouded by being a UGA fan. We split 1-1 in the regular seaeson against teh 2 best teams we played. The best team we played, to win the conference, we lost to. Who says we were one of the best teams?

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The committee considered uga 4th best going into the bama game,


when we were 11-1

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we backed that ranking up in the bama game.


by losing? We were 4th. We lost. We dropped. That's how it works.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 12:39 pm to
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This didn’t happen in 2018 , so that doesn’t explain it.


we lost by 20pts to a lesser ranked team just give up
Posted by Griffindawg
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 12:42 pm to
Haven’t seen a playoff yet where there were 4 teams who were all on the same level.
In 2017 there were 3.
Posted by DawgCountry
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 12:49 pm to
2014 was probably the closest even though Oregon abused FSU in the Semis
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 12:49 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 12:53 pm to
Maybe Alabama. had they beaten Auburn, they would have gone this year, imo.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 12:58 pm to
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2014 was probably the closest even though Oregon abused FSU in the Semis


people gotta realize that whatever happens int eh playoff games doesn't negate or invalidate the reason the teams got there.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 12:59 pm to
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Maybe Alabama. had they beaten Auburn, they would have gone this year, imo.


they would not have. They didn't win their conference and would not make it in over a Big12 winner with an identical record. Unless you think the committee woudl do somethign they have literally never done before, which I don't think they woudl.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 1:01 pm to
Sure it does, that's one of the reason they actually allow them to play the game.....

Then we get to judge whether they got it right or not....
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 1:02 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 1:06 pm to
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Sure it does


I'm sorry but this is simply a stupid opinion. You can't look at after the fact data and say a decision made a month before is right or wrong since they didn't have the same information at that time.

Baylor started the season unranked and didn't even receive a single vote in the AP. Then they won 11 games and almost won the Big 12. Them doing well all season doesn't mean not ranking them in the preseason was stupid or wrong, at the time it was perfectly justified.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 1:16 pm to
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lost by 20pts to a lesser ranked team just give up


We lost to a highly ranked LSU team, and were still ranked 4th in the final regular season playoff poll.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 1:33 pm to
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we didn't. Either you're top 4 or you're not, there's no "almost" top 4. We had zero chance whatsoever of making it. Where we ended up after the top 4 is irrelevant.


Without the eye test, we aren’t even in the discussion.

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what in the world does this mean? OU lost by 10 to bama in miami, we lost to them by 7 in atlanta. OU also won the big 12


Means committee gave ou the edge due to resume, and the 28-0 start to the game proved they chose wing. Bama won by 11 and kneed the ball on the 8.

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that's not true at all. There have been plenty of teams in the pros (NFL


Prove it. Name a top 4 nfl team not making the playoffs

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We lost. We dropped. That's how it works.


That’s the flaw. Ignores the opponent and the game. It works like that but it shouldn’t. Nothing about that bama game proved we weren’t as good as they thought going into that game. Kirk isn’t blinded by being a uga fan, and he made the same point.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 1:42 pm to
Listen retard, if the games didn't matter, they would not play them. They would just choose the champion and be done with it. frick you are dumb.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 2:00 pm to
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Listen retard, if the games didn't matter, they would not play them. They would just choose the champion and be done with it. frick you are dumb.
I don't think you're understanding what he's saying, which is ironic when you're calling him dumb.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 2:04 pm to
He is saying people don't have the right to judge the committee based on the results of the teams they chose and the games they played.

We do...

We beat the team OU needed second half miracles to beat twice and we did with our second team....

We get to judge them based on that alone if we want.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 2:17 pm to
And then lost AGAIN. Just stop
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40251 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 2:21 pm to
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And then lost AGAIN. Just stop


We played very well against bama, so quit trying to claim that’s a worthy line of reasoning.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46115 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 2:27 pm to
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He is saying people don't have the right to judge the committee based on the results of the teams they chose and the games they played.

We do...

We beat the team OU needed second half miracles to beat twice and we did with our second team....

We get to judge them based on that alone if we want.
I understood his point as not being able to look at the results of the playoff games to judge the decisions of the committee on who makes it into the playoffs because the committee is making determinations based on the data available to them, and the results of the playoff games, themselves, are not part of the data the committee has access to to make their decisions. In other words, the committee can't see into the future.

He's right. Perhaps the games play out in such a way that makes us question whether or not a particular team really deserved to be there, meaning they weren't really one of the best four teams in the country, but there's no way to know that until the games are played because the committee has a set body of data to pull from to make their decisions.

You can make whatever judgements you want, but if you ignore context, your judgements are foolish.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16331 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 2:29 pm to
Whats funny will be when OU gets in again next year....

I honestly think the big 12 should be demoted out of the power 5.

This is the same committee that was trying to put Utah in the playoffs.

Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16331 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 2:32 pm to
Sure there was, OUs playoff history.........and big game history prior to that.......

This isn't an ivory Tower, you can't minimize failure by saying hindsight, OU was a terrible pick, Baylor would have been as well, so would Utah, I could at least live with Oregon.
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