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re: Stopping Tennessee offense

Posted on 10/30/22 at 4:34 pm to
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 10/30/22 at 4:34 pm to
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Dude, do you really think that UGA stands no chance to win if we give up 40+? You posted that on the rant.


If you tell me that you are from the future, and Tennessee scored 40+ on our defense with no other information, gun to my head to bet, I bet on the Vols.

That means that we've allowed ourselves to play a game that's not our own.

No chance? Maybe not no chance. There's always a chance.

But, I'd bet we lost, yes.

Sue me.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43404 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 4:48 pm to
So you don’t believe our offense can score at will on their awful pass defense? And that makes sense to you? We have a top ten offense against the second worst passing defense. I just don’t see how they slow us down even if it’s a shoot out.
Posted by Kneehigh
Low Country
Member since Nov 2012
16983 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 4:50 pm to
They score 40 or more we are done imo. I agree with most, they have to play our game. We force them to play our game by a physical running game and protecting the football. If Tennessee gets down a couple of scores, they’ll start forcing it and it will be a wrap. They’re QB is not very smart btw going back to his days at VT. You also hit him a few times, the TRUE VT pussy will come out.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16323 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 4:53 pm to
We could have scored 70 a few times this year, 40 is no magic number as it pertains us keeping the foot on the accelerater.

We are right with them in all categories on o with a way better d.

A single late stop may be the differnence with a score in the 50s.
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5290 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 5:18 pm to
quote:

So you don’t believe our offense can score at will on their awful pass defense?


Can we? Yes. Will we is the question.

It's not ever going to be that I don't think the UGA offense isn't good enough, especially this year.

However, 40 points on us indicates a lot of possibilities, not the least of which the offense/special teams has made a lot of mistakes, turning the ball over, negating, each time, an opportunity for them to score.

I don't like our chances IF UGA MUST score 40+ to win. UGA isn't a shootout team. We score our points methodically. We want to control the game. We want teams to bend to our will, not ours to theirs.

But, UT isn't scoring 40 on us, so your concern about my opinion, while noted, are largely unnecessary.

I have faith in Kirby's defenses.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43404 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 5:32 pm to
quote:

Can we? Yes. Will we is the question.



They gave up 50 points to Bama with a lower ranked offense. They gave up 400 yards to AR15 and we saw how good he is. I don't see how we won't score 40+ on them when we're averaging 42 points against teams with better defenses.
quote:

But, UT isn't scoring 40 on us, so your concern about my opinion, while noted, are largely unnecessary.

Cool, you said it was a UT slam dunk that we lose if we give up 40 which is not even close to the truth in my opinion. They have a great offense and could have scored 2 more tds on our defense last year but Hooker over threw the ball.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
14467 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 5:44 pm to
This game is going to be a strength vs weakness with both offenses better than both defenses.
Their offense is significantly better than our offense in terms of big play potential.
Our defense is better than their defense, but a few missed assignments and we could easily find ourselves playing catchup in the 2nd half.

Having said that, I believe that Tennessee's defense is underrated and has improved as the season has progressed.
They are tough against the run and will load the box to shut down our running game.
We will not be able to run up the middle for the most part.
They will force Stetson to beat them and without a long and accurate passing game to stretch the field I believe we are going to have more trouble getting first downs than most might expect.
I watched most of their game vs Kentucky and their DBs are better than advertised and were playing tight coverage and looking for opportunities to jump routes. They will be doing the same on our short passing game.

If Stetson keeps throwing those ill-advised passes in the flats without checking coverage, 2 things are likely to happen: 1. he might well get one of our receivers knocked out of the game and 2. I would not be surprised to see a pick six.

I have stated this formula for success against good teams like Tennessee:
1. Bennett needs to roll out early and often with TE's blocking and sloughing off blocks to become receivers.
2. He needs to take any yardage they give him until their secondary comes up to stop the run. If Bennett gets tired, Kirby should relieve him with Beck who is more than capable and the better pocket passer.
3. When the secondary comes up, Bennett needs to throw over them to trailing receivers and receivers who drift back deeper behind the DB's.
4. Do this effectively and it will near impossible for them to stop both the run and the pass. This would force them to spread their defense and open up the middle for dive plays and passes over the middle to TE's.

I do not believe our run first to establish the run and play action will be effective.
If we try to run up the middle, we will be stuffed.
If we try play action off an ineffective run game, their defense will be all over the short Bennett with their arms up.

Tennessee will probably score at least 5 TD's and some FG's. We are going to have to match them score for score and hope for some stops early while our defense is still fresh because they will likely score some late TD's after our defense gets tired.
We have better players overall but Tennessee has put together a great offense.
Hooker is a much better QB than Bennett and they have better wide receivers who rarely drop catchable passes.
Their defense is not as good as ours but it might well be good enough to stifle our offense unless Bennett has an exceptional game and picks up some first downs with his legs.

I hope I am paranoid and completely full of it but that's the way I see it after watching games for both teams.

Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5290 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 5:46 pm to
quote:

is not even close to the truth in my opinion.


Ah. But in my opinion, it is.

However, you can call me an idiot for my opinion, and I can call you an idiot for yours, and we can piss and shite all over the board with stats and whatnot, OR...

...we can agree that UGA will not even give up 30, and the whole contention is, most likely, moot.

When was the last time a Kirby defense gave up 40? Hell, I'm not even sure if they have...

Stats. We need stats...
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
8000 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 5:50 pm to
quote:

When was the last time a Kirby defense gave up 40?


Last year. SEC game.

Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16323 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 5:52 pm to
I dont believe their offense is significantly better than ours, our stats are comparable and we shut it down way sooner than UT.
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5290 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 5:56 pm to
2016: Ole Miss 45 points. L.

2017: AU 40 points. L. Oklahoma, 48. W.

2020: Alabama 41, L. UF 44. L.

2021: Alabama 41, L.

Smart is 1-5 when opponents score 40+ on him.

I'd imagine Saban has a similar record. Did not realize 6 times we have had 40+ put up on us. I am enlightened.
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5290 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 5:58 pm to
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Last year. SEC game.


Yep. Just satiated my curiosity, and it confirmed my feelings upon having 40+ scored on us.

I didn't like it. Now, I really don't like it. But, it's a moot point.

UT won't score 30...
This post was edited on 10/30/22 at 5:59 pm
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
8000 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 6:06 pm to
yeah, if you had told me last year that Alabama will score 41 on our defense I would've said there's no way. So, I'm hesitant to take that same position this year, with a less talented (but still good) defense.
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5290 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 6:10 pm to
I don't know why people have this notion that we are some gimmicky offense that is built to score fast and just put up absurd offensive numbers.

Just because we put up big numbers doesn't mean that we are built to do so. UGA plays better complimentary ball than any team in a decade. UGA plays physical ball, goes deep inside of it's depth, over powers and constricts, frustrates and smothers, etc. UGAs offense is efficient. They leave very few points on the field and off the scoreboard.

If UGA is out there playing any other style than what it's built for, they are in the other teams tar baby. Doesn't mean that they lose, it just means they are playing in an unfamiliar and uncomfortable style that lessen the effectiveness and efficiency of the design, and more prone to mistakes which will absolutely affect momentum and opportunity.

I don't want Stetson Bennett (or any other UGA quarterback) to HAVE to win us a game with their arm. This is different, of course, from thinking that they can't (or haven't) won us a game with their arm. A UGA quarterback in a shootout, slinging the rock in desperation is very foreign to the nature of the team.
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5290 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 6:17 pm to
quote:

yeah, if you had told me last year that Alabama will score 41 on our defense I would've said there's no way.


Alabama's offense is/was a whole different animal than UT's offense. UT is a run heavy, tempo spread, that relies on that tempo to keep the other team from subbing, into fatigue, exposing mismatches, and catching them on their heels.

If our front can contain the run without help cheating into the box, that'll be huge. Put UT into thrid and longs at every opportunity. MAKE UT THROW THE BALL TO WIN.

That last comment probably probably reads dumb as frick to a lot of people, but UT passing without the run is not what they want to do.

Bend their style to our will, not ours to theirs...
Posted by Kneehigh
Low Country
Member since Nov 2012
16983 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 6:28 pm to
I think they’re gonna move the ball and score some… but ultimately it’s up to OUR offense to dictate this game.
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5290 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 6:36 pm to
quote:

I think they’re gonna move the ball and score some…


Oh, no doubt. UGA just needs to control how they are scoring. The yang to that yin is that the offense will need to compliment the defense with controlled, sustained drives of their own. Don't panick if you go down quickly by 10-14. Continue to play your brand of football. No short fields due to turnovers. Pin them back on long fields in punting situations. Convert thrid downs.

Become Conan.



When UGA hears the lamentations of their women, open it up. Pour it on. Lather it about. Rinse. Repeat.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43404 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

Just because we put up big numbers doesn't mean that we are built to do so


Why else would we be putting up big numbers? We're build for it. We have the most efficient offense in the SEC.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43404 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 6:50 pm to
quote:


Ah. But in my opinion, it is.

However, you can call me an idiot for my opinion, and I can call you an idiot for yours, and we can piss and shite all over the board with stats and whatnot,


Who's name calling? That's weak shite. We're having a discussion. Nothing more, nothing less.

quote:

Stats. We need stats...



We have the #2 rated offense going against the #82 ranked defense.

We have the #8 passing O vs the #127 pass D.

We have the #4 team defense going against the #1 offense.

We have the #13 passing D against the #2 passing O.

Those stats with a home game tell me we win big.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 6:55 pm to
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If Bennett gets tired, Kirby should relieve him with Beck who is more than capable and the better pocket passer.




Jesus Christ.
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