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Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:11 pm to
Posted by RedFive
Ringgold Ga
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:11 pm to
Instead of reading part of Deeprig’s Post try reading all of it this time. The Kurds have been our allies a lot longer than you are aware of and we should have clipped him the first time we went there. I’d also support any action that went toward protect the Kurds.
Posted by Buzz Killington
Member since Nov 2019
1519 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:12 pm to
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You are woefully ignorant on how the Iraq war came to be. Woefully.


I don't think there's a subject you're not an "expert" on.
Posted by Buzz Killington
Member since Nov 2019
1519 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:15 pm to
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Instead of reading part of Deeprig’s Post try reading all of it this time. The Kurds have been our allies a lot longer than you are aware of and we should have clipped him the first time we went there. I’d also support any action that went toward protect the Kurds.




There is no way to stabilize the Middle East. It's their culture that won't allow it, they do not want democracy. If we take down one genocidal leader, another takes its place. We killed Saddam, Iraq is still a shithole. We killed Bin Laden, Afghanistan is still a shithole. It's the way it will always be there.
Posted by RedFive
Ringgold Ga
Member since Apr 2015
2168 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:20 pm to
So yes, let’s just allows dictators to run amuck and massacre helpless people under their rule. The Jimmy Carter Doctrine. It’s worked so well in the past.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51733 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:21 pm to
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clipped him the first time we went there. I

And look what that has brought us. We take out a dictator all it does is become a failed state with a power vaccum. The ME has always been and will always be a shite storm of various religions and subsects of religions fighting over holy land.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
74648 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:23 pm to
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for fricks sake we've been in the ME for nearly two decades now


A lot longer than that brah. History didn't start where you remember.

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is it all really just to fight evil people


Pretty much.

Posted by RedFive
Ringgold Ga
Member since Apr 2015
2168 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:23 pm to
I’m just curious since you two are so well versed in Iraq and it’s culture. How much time did you spend there? That question is for both of you naysayers.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51733 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:25 pm to
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A lot longer than that brah. History didn't start where you remember

You know exactly what I'm talking about don't pretend to be obtuse
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Pretty much

So you're for perpetual warfare, good thing to know you have no problem with Americans getting killed just so the warhawks can collect the profits
Posted by Buzz Killington
Member since Nov 2019
1519 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:29 pm to
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I’m just curious since you two are so well versed in Iraq and it’s culture. How much time did you spend there? That question is for both of you naysayers.




Never been there. I've never been to Somalia either but I know enough about it to know it's a shithole. If you haven't been watching the past 30 years to know how fricked the Middle East is I don't know what to tell you. We killed a dictator, and tried to insert our form of government, it didn't work. THEY DO NOT WANT OUR GOVERNMENT OR OUR CULTURE. They want their society to be based on the Koran and Shariah Law. Let's just stay the frick out of it.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
74648 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:30 pm to
All Iraq had to do was not shoot at UN planes patrolling the no-fly-zones, every day, for years, after the ceasefire UN agreement from when they invaded Kuwait and genocided people.

Saddam had one job.

Posted by RedFive
Ringgold Ga
Member since Apr 2015
2168 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:32 pm to
I appreciate the lecture but I’ve been there and I’m speaking from experience as where you are talking out your arse. Have a good night sir.
Posted by Buzz Killington
Member since Nov 2019
1519 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:34 pm to
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I appreciate the lecture but I’ve been there and I’m speaking from experience as where you are talking out your arse. Have a good night sir.




My dad has been multiple times to Iraq during the war, didn't have good things to say. To each his own.
This post was edited on 4/21/20 at 9:39 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
74648 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:35 pm to
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We killed a dictator,


Wrong. That's what we should have done, but we didn't.


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tried to insert our form of government,


Semi-true. We introduced it to them, they didn't take to it.




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THEY DO NOT WANT OUR GOVERNMENT OR OUR CULTURE


100% true



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Let's just stay the frick out of it.


I'm a republican/conservative but not a libertarian. I'm a Ruth [from ozark] Republican. If their shite fricks up our shite, we have to intervene. That includes level 11 human rights shite.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51733 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:35 pm to
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I appreciate the lecture but I’ve been there and I’m speaking from experience as where you are talking out your arse. Have a good night sir.


You shouldn't have to go to the ME to know that they don't want our system and that the entire area is a hotbed of war and terrorism. We have absolutely no reason to waste American lives on such a futile effort. This war on terror is no different then the war against communism. Just war pigs making up a reason to invade a place so they can reap the profits
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51733 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:36 pm to
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That includes level 11 human rights shite.


China, North Korea, Venezuela, Russia all have violated human rights yet I don't see you pumping out your chest about war with any of them
Posted by RedFive
Ringgold Ga
Member since Apr 2015
2168 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:39 pm to
You speak for every single person there? You know there’s Iranians that struggle for democracy every day right? The Kurds seem to like our systems. Not all Arabs are evil heathens as you seem to have them stereotyped as. What about the Iraqi Christians? You seemed to forgot about a few.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
74648 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:39 pm to
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China, North Korea, Venezuela, Russia all have violated human rights yet I don't see you pumping out your chest about war with any of them


Gotta pick your battles. You know this. Stop being obtuse.
Posted by RedFive
Ringgold Ga
Member since Apr 2015
2168 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:40 pm to
My Dad.........
Posted by Buzz Killington
Member since Nov 2019
1519 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:41 pm to
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Gotta pick your battles. You know this. Stop being obtuse.



Or we can focus on ourselves and improving our own country. We don't have to pick any battle.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51733 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:42 pm to
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Gotta pick your battles. You know this. Stop being obtuse.

So you want American lives wasted in the middle east got ya
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