re: JUCO OL Jocquell Johnson commits to Mississippi State & Engie vs WIO

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So they are talented recruiters in MS but not in other states? Why is there a difference in their recruiting skills inside and outside the state?

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Who is arguing jack shite about overall recruiting skills? Oh, wait -- it's another WiO straw man...

You are the one coming in here with the implication that you are about to dominate Mullen in recruiting -- when the only real opportunity to do that is in MS, where you haven't dominated jack shite.

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Last year when Kailo was telling state reporters that he was 100% dawg and we said he is just saying that because he has too. he will be a rebel, y'all would shut that down and link every article of him saying he's 100% dawg.

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Please link me to where I did this. Oh, wait, that's straw man argument #98034098023 from WIO in this thread.

Actually, if you refer back to MY actual thoughts on Kailo -- I ALWAYS thought he was a paper recruiting victory that was overrated as hell on the field even prior to his senior year when he didn't do jack shite besides sit out with pulled muscles twice a month. I've got MANY quotes on here saying that Dodson and Shump were the better actual recruits.

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He'd come to our practices and y'all still wouldn't accept at least the chance of it until it became apparent the flip was coming.

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MORE bullshite. The VAST majority of State fans NEVER thought he was going to actually end up at MSU. Hilarious that you are trying to project "Al" as "everyone else".

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Now when CJ says he's 100% I admit that if y'all grab back the momentum in the state that y'all could take him from us. Exact same situation except CJ has never committed to State an grew up an OM fan, just like Kailo.

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Again -- I fail to see how ANY of this actually applies to me -- or the argument you are attempting to make against me. Quote Al and argue with him in this straw man bullshite you are trying to use against me.

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Any player can decommit for various reasons. You think we got CJ because we were the first to offer. I argued that. You think y'all have a good chance because Meridian is such a state town. I argued that. I never argued that y'all could flip him. I just said y'all have to have a better season to do it

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So, ultimately, you started this entire argument -- argued every point I made -- when you actually AGREED with everything that I said, just not the particular reasons that I cited(which were only CITED in the first place because you ARGUED a point that you NOW agree with)...

Make up your damn mind.

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Why do you say shite like this?

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Why do you argue about things that you actually agree with?

I don't think both Gerri and Jesse will commit to state over the summer and I don't think CJ will flip, but I don't think either are impossible. How is that not disagreeing with you when you assume all three will happen?

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I could give you example after example after example and you will still think y'all out recruiter us instate guys like Flowers, Thomas, and Shumpert because you're either dumb or will say anything to win an argument

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There it is gentlemen!

The patented "OM didn't really even want Ashton Shumpert". What. A. fricking. Joke.

You've now changed your argument 15 times and I've lost track of what it actually is...

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Something we can agree on.

We aren't in the same league recruiting wise which is why we don't go head to head often.

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Hilarious.

One good class for OM = "not in the same league" with MSU anymore despite ALL evidence from the past 25 years saying over time that we recruit on about the same level.

But, but freezus bringing back the glory of the 60s!11!1

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Well damn dude. If Genes page and SPS aren't the mass majority then I don't know what to say to you.

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Please link me to the majority of SPS posters believing that Kailo was ultimately going to end up at MSU...if you can.

I won't hold my breath -- because I already know that you are full of shite.

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I don't think both Gerri and Jesse will commit to state over the summer and I don't think CJ will flip, but I don't think either are impossible. How is that not disagreeing with you when you assume all three will happen?

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Where did I make any such assumption? Feel free to link me to it...

That's right -- You.Are.Making.Up.shite. AGAIN.

I simply replied to your yancy-speak bullshite about OM has a good chance of grabbing those two heavy MSU leans, you must also concede that we've got an equally good chance of flipping Hampton away from you. Which has led you down a long path full fake arguments and other bullshite that was never said in the first place.

NOWHERE did I say that I thought we were going to lock up all three. It'll be a great day in August when I no longer have to argue with your arse over stuff that I never even actually said.

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We wanted him as a LB and you know this.

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OHHH... so Freeze is now brutally honest with recruits and above telling them whatever they want to hear in order to get them to sign?

Hi.Lar.Io.Us.

Yep -- only went to MSU because we told him we'd give him the OPPORTUNITY to play RB** That's it!1!!1 Obviously, Freeze could have told him the same thing at any point in time and flipped him!!1!1 - WIO recruiting logic.