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Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:13 pm to Whereisomaha
I'll give it to Engie.....the kid loves to pull numbers out in an argument...but...and how exactly to explain this simple enough...
When someone mentions Pi, he runs to grab the whipped cream.
When someone mentions Pi, he runs to grab the whipped cream.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:13 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
31-19-2 since desegregation at Ole Miss. So we actually have a better winning percentage against y'all in that timeframe than we do all-time. Math can be difficult, try not to hurt yourself Al.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:15 pm to Whereisomaha
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Huge point. Our past two classes are the best on paper in school history. The past is irrelevent if we are doing things we've never done in the past
A common theme I've seen in MSU boards is how they imply that we have had several top 10 classes over the last decade or so, so it's nothing new to them and they're not worried about it.
It's amazing how bullshite can be repeated enough til it's eventually seen as fact.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:16 pm to OBReb6
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:17 pm to pankReb
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Please....do tell exactly how a proper red-shirt program will leave you "young"(which you were not) in year 5...
Class of 2009:
over half the class plays immediately due to a lack of depth left by Croom
Class of 2010:
Entire class redshirts
What we just did was create an entire "class" with 8 graduating players in it(we added 2 JUCOs to get to 10 total seniors last year).
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Just because you had to start younger guys because the older guys weren't good enough to start....doesn't mean you're young
Where did we start all these "younger guys" that supplanted upperclassmen that sucked? Any single position will work.
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That means the older guys were apart of a shitty recruiting class.
This is funny. Go ahead and link me to these allegedly shitty recruiting classes. Because I'll show you classes that have consistently been better on the field than the ones that you have had.
But I know -- it's all about the press conference. Results on the field be damned.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:17 pm to BallstotheWesleyWall
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31-19-2 since desegregation at Ole Miss. So we actually have a better winning percentage against y'all in that timeframe than we do all-time. Math can be difficult, try not to hurt yourself Al.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:19 pm to OBReb6
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A common theme I've seen in MSU boards is how they imply that we have had several top 10 classes over the last decade or so, so it's nothing new to them and they're not worried about it.
Whatever they need to say to feel better they will.
Two years ago, it was "girls basketball coach" shite. Now they're in full spin mode trying to come to grips with the fact that the girl's basketball coach, just two years removed from 2-10, needed the WORST GAME OF HIS CAREER to lose in over to Dan Mullen in Starkville.
I swear to fricking Christ we won't be needing an epic meltdown by the Bulldogs in Oxford to win the Egg Bowl in Hugh Freeze's fifth year. I know that's a ban bet that's three years in the making, but I'm willing to take it.
EDIT: I mean, just think about that. Dan Mullen, in year five, barely escaped the Egg Bowl by the skin of his goddamn hunch against Hugh Freeze in year two. Why they can't see this as anything other than a harbinger of :tGrinddecline: is beyond me.
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:20 pm to Whereisomaha
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Huge point. Our past two classes are the best on paper in school history. The past is irrelevent if we are doing things we've never done in the past
But you aren't. You had one tremendous class -- this year's class is not much different than any Orgeron or Nutt class.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:21 pm to engie
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But you aren't. You had one tremendous class -- this year's class is not much different than any Orgeron or Nutt class.
It's better than any Nutt or Orgeron class
Our two best classes in school history. What don't you get? It's ranked higher and does so with zero help from JUCO players
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:22 pm to engie
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this year's class is not much different than any Orgeron or Nutt class.
Perhaps, but if we can manage to keep them on campus for a few years then it will be better than any O or Nutt class in terms of production. That's another thing that y'all are conveniently ignoring, by the way, and that's the simple truth that Freeze is a much better manager of the Ole Miss program than his two immediate predecessors.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:22 pm to engie
It's similar to the 2006 class, which paved the way to some great teams, but is still statistically better.
And don't compare it to any of Nutt's classes until half the class is gone from the program in a couple of years. fricking rubbish man.
And don't compare it to any of Nutt's classes until half the class is gone from the program in a couple of years. fricking rubbish man.
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:23 pm to OBReb6
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A common theme I've seen in MSU boards is how they imply that we have had several top 10 classes over the last decade or so, so it's nothing new to them and they're not worried about it.
What position do you outclass us at currently?
I think it's hilarious that Ole Miss fans talk about how ridiculous it is for MSU fans to base their thoughts on you in what has happened historically -- and consistently -- yet it's a PERFECT idea to put together one elite recruiting class and basically assume that they are all then elite -- and your dominance is imminent.
It didn't look very imminent on the field on Thanskgiving -- when MSU actually played more underclassmen than you did.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:26 pm to engie
Without Tunsil, Golson, Aaron Morris, and CJ you are the more talented team last year. Talent wins games. We will have more talent from here on out. Deal with it
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:27 pm to engie
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Results on the field be damned.
You mean like it taking the absolute worst game of freezes tenure to be bowl eligible?
also... thank you for continuing the "only caring about beating ole miss" narrative.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:28 pm to OBReb6
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A common theme I've seen in MSU boards is how they imply that we have had several top 10 classes over the last decade or so, so it's nothing new to them and they're not worried about it.
I love how y'all take shite from ED and swear that's what we all say. Then when someone mentions Yancy or David and their minions it is the minority and not how most OM people think.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:28 pm to Whereisomaha
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I think it's hilarious that Ole Miss fans talk about how ridiculous it is for MSU fans to base their thoughts on you in what has happened historically -- and consistently -- yet it's a PERFECT idea to put together one elite recruiting class and basically assume that they are all then elite -- and your dominance is imminent.
We think like that because we know if we have 3 more 4 stars than you in a class, and we lost 5 to attrition, that even though we were ranked higher you have more talent. Now that we are brining in more talent than ever and aren't losing players, we form our superior opinion. Plus players added like Alford, Fadol, and Christian Morris that make our team more talented than rankings suggest
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:28 pm to engie
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What position do you outclass us at currently?
How does that have anything to do with what I said? You know, that I've seen multiple State fans imply that we have had several top 10 classes the last decade. A narrative that is so far from the truth it's ridiculous.
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I think it's hilarious that Ole Miss fans talk about how ridiculous it is for MSU fans to base their thoughts on you in what has happened historically -- and consistently -- yet it's a PERFECT idea to put together one elite recruiting class and basically assume that they are all then elite -- and your dominance is imminent.
When Freeze starts showing consistently that he can't develope or manage his players I'll agree with you, but there is very little evidence to support such a claim at this time.
And this class was very close to being an elite class, with several top guys we barely missed out on, but even with that this class still blows any previous OM (minus last year) out of the water. Especially if we can close like many think we might.
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:30 pm to DCRebel
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EDIT: I mean, just think about that. Dan Mullen, in year five, barely escaped the Egg Bowl by the skin of his goddamn hunch against Hugh Freeze in year two. Why they can't see this as anything other than a harbinger of :tGrinddecline: is beyond me.
Whatever you need to tell yourself to make you feel better about getting outdualed by a true freshman QB -- and then getting totally fricking annihilated by our starter and 2 WRs(all returning next year) for the final quarter.
Yep. MSU's recruiting is terrible -- and the future is bleak.
- Returning 3* QB with 2 BCS offers is in the preseason top 10 for the Heisman(Bovada -- and everyone else).
- Returning 2* LB that Memphis didn't even see fit to offer is arguably the best returning LB in the country.
Need I go on?
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:30 pm to engie
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It didn't look very imminent on the field on Thanskgiving
there it is again. You cant say recruiting rankings dont matter and only compare two teams......unless you legitimately dont care about beating anyone else
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