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re: Who's the best SEC QB at this point in the season?
Posted on 10/7/11 at 8:22 pm to DrSEC
Posted on 10/7/11 at 8:22 pm to DrSEC
Wilson has one quality game against quality competition, that was against Auburn last year, his QB rating was 181. Against South Carolina on the road last year, Bray had a QB rating of 180.
Both players came off the bench in those games.
Both players came off the bench in those games.
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Posted on 10/7/11 at 8:29 pm to volfan30
What was Texas A & M record?.....what was the score at the half?....who was the qb who led his team to the best comeback of this young season. That is a signature win.
Posted on 10/7/11 at 8:32 pm to DrSEC
Texas A&M ranks dead last in all of the FBS in pass defense, that means it is worse than both Cincinnati and Buffalo.
Does not compute.
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That is a signature win.
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Wins by a quarterback are overrated. He does not play defense or special teams.
Does not compute.
Posted on 10/7/11 at 8:38 pm to volfan30
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Texas A&M ranks dead last in all of the FBS in pass defense, that means it is worse than both Cincinnati and Buffalo.
Could that have anything to do with the fact that Wilson put 500 yards on them? Perhaps the game before them was against the #1 WR in nation had something to do with that?
I know it is not flea flickers against Montana but any time you bring your team back against a top 25 school in Cowboy Stadium...that is a sig win.
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Does not compute.
I am sure that it does not. If Bray passes for 400 yards and 4 tds and no INT's tomorrow, and they lose 48-45....is that on the qb?
Posted on 10/7/11 at 8:43 pm to DrSEC
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Could that have anything to do with the fact that Wilson put 500 yards on them? Perhaps the game before them was against the #1 WR in nation had something to do with that?
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Could that have anything to do with the fact that Wilson put 500 yards on them? Perhaps the game before them was against the #1 WR in nation had something to do with that?
I did not see the game against Arkansas in its entirety, but I saw all of the OK St game. They are a piss poor unit fundamentally. They are god awful tacklers and undisciplined as hell in coverage. They are right there with Cincy as the worst BCS secondary I've seen.
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I know it is not flea flickers against Montana
Holy shite, not again.
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any time you bring your team back against a top 25 school in Cowboy Stadium...that is a sig win.
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If Bray passes for 400 yards and 4 tds and no INT's tomorrow, and they lose 48-45....is that on the qb?
Once again, does not compute. You're talking out of both sides of your mouth regarding QB wins.
Posted on 10/7/11 at 8:49 pm to volfan30
I appreciate that you are a homer...heck...I will be glad to buy you a pepsi at the game tomorrow. But being a homer doesn't make you right.
Name all the defenses that Bray has played that were better than A & M.
onside kicks...flea flickers versus minor league teams. Don't get it.
It was a sig win. However, it was sig play as well. I am not asking for you to name a sig win for Wilson because wins/losses are overrated for qbs.
***Just name the sig game he had where he was playing decent competition. The game he went out, win or lose, and carried his team against a good team.
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I did not see the game against Arkansas in its entirety, but I saw all of the OK St game. They are a piss poor unit fundamentally. They are god awful tacklers and undisciplined as hell in coverage. They are right there with Cincy as the worst BCS secondary I've seen.
Name all the defenses that Bray has played that were better than A & M.
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Holy shite, not again.
onside kicks...flea flickers versus minor league teams. Don't get it.
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Once again, does not compute. You're talking out of both sides of your mouth regarding QB wins.
It was a sig win. However, it was sig play as well. I am not asking for you to name a sig win for Wilson because wins/losses are overrated for qbs.
***Just name the sig game he had where he was playing decent competition. The game he went out, win or lose, and carried his team against a good team.
This post was edited on 10/7/11 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 10/7/11 at 9:02 pm to DrSEC
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I appreciate that you are a homer...heck...I will be glad to buy you a pepsi at the game tomorrow. But being a homer doesn't make you right.
I suggest a quick google search of Tyler Bray's name, I'm certainly not the only one who thinks he's the best quarterback in the league.
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Name all the defenses that Bray has played that were better than A & M.
South Carolina, Kentucky, North Carolina, Florida
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onside kicks...flea flickers versus minor league teams. Don't get it.
I have no idea what this has to do with anything. I'm not sure if you've seen Tennessee in recent years, but we have been in multiple one possession games with "minor league" teams and even lost to Wyoming. Breaking their backs early is not a bad idea at all.
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It was a sig win. However, it was sig play as well. I am not asking for you to name a sig win for Wilson because wins/losses are overrated for qbs.
***Just name the sig game he had where he was playing decent competition. The game he went out, win or lose, and carried his team against a good team.
Bray has really only faced four decent opponents, he made the most mistakes against UNC, but still threw for 300+ and 4 TDs.
As I stated, S. Carolina last year (180 QB rating), Kentucky (The difference in the game). Against Florida Bray carried Tennessee. -8 yards rushing and loss of SEC's second best receiver, forced to throw the ball around 50 times. Lost by only 10, Bray was certainly good enough to win and the reason we didn't get blown out.
Like the Montana flea flicker, you seem fixated on dropped picks, so I'm sure you'll bring that up. Wilson also had a pick dropped against New Mexico and another against A&M. Bray has had two perfectly thrown touchdown passes dropped as well. All of those plays are meaningless.
This post was edited on 10/7/11 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 10/7/11 at 9:18 pm to volfan30
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South Carolina, Kentucky, North Carolina, Florida
SC is out because it is not a start. The fact Kentucky is on the list shows how weak of a schedule he has played. UNC and UF he had 7 touchdowns and 5 ints. Made plays but made a bunch of mistakes as well. Neither of those games did he play above a C.
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I have no idea what this has to do with anything. I'm not sure if you've seen Tennessee in recent years, but we have been in multiple one possession games with "minor league" teams and even lost to Wyoming. Breaking their backs early is not a bad idea at all.
Never...EVER...should UT have to run a flea flicker against Montana to....get going.
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Bray has really only faced four decent opponents, he made the most mistakes against UNC, but still threw for 300+ and 4 TDs.
As I stated, S. Carolina last year (180 QB rating), Kentucky (The difference in the game). Against Florida Bray carried Tennessee. -8 yards rushing and loss of SEC's second best receiver, forced to throw the ball around 50 times. Lost by only 10, Bray was certainly good enough to win and the reason we didn't get blown out.
Don't take it as me saying Bray sucks but the Florida DB's were the reason they were still in that game. Dropped picks would have made that a 20 point loss.
Like I said, he might be as good as you think. However, he has played two decent teams. THose two teams he played mediocre. He has one game outside of Tennessee and he had 20+ incompletions.
Please understand I am not saying he is not going to be great. However, he does not have one game that he played good competition and played well.
Posted on 10/7/11 at 9:23 pm to DrSEC
I can understand where you are coming from on Bray as far as proving himself, but neither Wilson or Murray have exactly run a gauntlet successfully. Wilson, if you eliminate the AU game since he didn't start, has done nothing at all against a top 100 pass defense.
Posted on 10/7/11 at 9:28 pm to volfan30
I just say Murray because he had 3,000 yards and 28 touchdowns in a full season. He played like CRAP last week. But it is one game and he has a resume.
I really would not be surprised if Bray is #1 at the end of the season. The key, however, is Da'rick Rogers IMO. He has had drop problems since high school.
I really would not be surprised if Bray is #1 at the end of the season. The key, however, is Da'rick Rogers IMO. He has had drop problems since high school.
Posted on 10/7/11 at 11:07 pm to DrSEC
Thats easy. It is Conner Shaw in a landslide! He has 0 interceptions and is undefeated as a starter. What else could anyone ask for?
Posted on 10/7/11 at 11:35 pm to RebFeBrees
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Who's the best SEC QB at this point in the season?
Morgan Newton. Obviously.
Posted on 10/7/11 at 11:41 pm to bee Rye
JARRETT GENERAL LEE!!! 
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