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re: When Does The Alabama Dynasty End?

Posted on 7/7/12 at 10:42 pm to
Posted by bamascott2
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Posted on 7/7/12 at 10:42 pm to
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This is the sum of it. Unfortunately, not the end of it.

I know. Ricky's arguing with himself now.
Posted by c on z
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Posted on 7/7/12 at 10:43 pm to
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Why can't everyone accept that Alabama is the deserving champion? When will the butthurt on both sides end? Why is the season taking so long to get here?





When Rickdaddy tries to fight what he thinks is a good fight......there's not much you can do.

I still appreciate his efforts. Some guys wouldn't last this long.
Posted by northalabamacracker
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Posted on 7/7/12 at 10:45 pm to
What you continue to ignore is that it has always mattered when you lose, and OSU lost at the wrong time to the wrong team.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 7/7/12 at 10:45 pm to
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When Rickdaddy tries to fight what he thinks is a good fight......there's not much you can do.

I still appreciate his efforts. Some guys wouldn't last this long.


When the Chinese invade I want to be in a foxhole by RickDaddy...and HogNation. Those chinamen ain't gotta chance.
Posted by tider04
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Posted on 7/7/12 at 10:48 pm to
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So if the team with the most talent and is the best team, loses two games,they should just be in the title game anyway?

LSU 2007 says hello.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/7/12 at 10:50 pm to
Only if the system that allows for a rematch doesn't factor in subjective results to pick the rematch. If LSU had beaten Alabama 68-3 in Tuscaloosa, the Crimson Tide wouldn't have gone to the BCS Title game, Oklahoma State would have. Identical records, different outcomes. If this is a glaringly obvious factor, then you can't reasonably say that a true National Champ was determined, imo. Again. My opinion. Obviously not yours. The only difference is that in my opinion a National Champion must be determined with overwhelmingly objective rules, you believe that subjective factors should be the dominant factor, much like the BCS Champs were in January, the Crimson Tide.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 7/7/12 at 10:50 pm to
Everyone had 2 losses except OSU I think...have to check.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 7/7/12 at 10:51 pm to
Kansas had 1 loss and Hawaii was undefeated.
Posted by tider04
North Carolina
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Posted on 7/7/12 at 10:52 pm to
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Kansas had 1 loss and Hawaii was undefeated.

There you go. Tell Ricky to mail that 2007 crystal back to the BCS.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 7/7/12 at 10:53 pm to
back to the topic, good run by the Gumps, but not a dynasty. It's almost impossible to be a dynasty in the SEC. We have won 6 titles in a row. The conference is the dynasty. Too much inner conference competition and good teams to dominate todays SEC for a long period of time. I will say that if Alabama wins a natty this year or 2013, then it is a dynasty. 3 nattys in 5 years coming from a team in today's SEC would be incredible.

Off topic: Frick A&M, you are a weird-insignificant bunch, and I can't wait to see your team get skull dragged this fall, especially by LSU. And from what I have seen so far from your kind on the rant, the A&M posts after said skull drag will be sad and hilarious.

This post was edited on 7/7/12 at 10:54 pm
Posted by VanBasten9
Land of The White Elephants
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/7/12 at 10:55 pm to
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dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196

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I would. Even 3 out of 6 if other years were pretty good....say 10 wins or more. Certainly doable, on both counts.

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There was a discussion about that not long ago, comparing UF 2009 seniors and UA 2012 seniors. The UA class might surpass, depending on this season.


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I'll attribute this to the gap between LSU and AU historically and presently continually growing and some fans not being happy about it.


I read through most of this thread...and I love the passion and insight from all the fans here.
I just want my to add my 2 cents and say that I do NOT believe we are a dynasty currently. Maybe another one
or two in the next 3-4 years...then i think so
.

Lots of flames and 'homerific' comments on here (i understand-- we love our team)...but instead of calling people out....
I like to call you out for your objectivity and insight/info. You seem like a good poster based on this thread.

Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 7/7/12 at 10:55 pm to
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I will say that if Alabama wins a natty this year or 2013, then it is a dynasty. 3 nattys in 5 years coming from a team in today's SEC would be incredible.

Ditto

Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
5606 posts
Posted on 7/7/12 at 10:55 pm to
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Only if the system that allows for a rematch doesn't factor in subjective results to pick the rematch. If LSU had beaten Alabama 68-3 in Tuscaloosa, the Crimson Tide wouldn't have gone to the BCS Title game, Oklahoma State would have. Identical records, different outcomes. If this is a glaringly obvious factor, then you can't reasonably say that a true National Champ was determined, imo. Again. My opinion. Obviously not yours. The only difference is that in my opinion a National Champion must be determined with overwhelmingly objective rules, you believe that subjective factors should be the dominant factor, much like the BCS Champs were in January, the Crimson Tide.

That is clearly your opion, and nothing more. And in my opinion, your opinion sucks hairy goat balls.
PS--have you not figured out how to quote someone you're trying address in one of these threads? That Texas education hard at work for you, huh?
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 7/7/12 at 10:56 pm to
LSU is 1-7-1 all time at Kyle Field. The swamp kittens are the only team I know that was so sick of losing to A&M that they backed out of a contract because they were too scared to play. Seriously. The only team in the country that has ever been too scared to play Texas A&M is LSU.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 7/7/12 at 10:57 pm to
I know how to do it, but I'm on my phone. It's just quicker to assume you're roughly addressing my points instead of being 100% sure you're doing it line by line.
Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
5606 posts
Posted on 7/7/12 at 10:58 pm to
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I know how to do it, but I'm on my phone. It's just quicker to assume you're roughly addressing my points instead of being 100% sure you're doing it line by line.

Suuure you are.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 7/7/12 at 10:59 pm to
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You seem like a good poster based on this thread.

Try to take homer glasses as best I can, but as a fan it's hard to do . That being said, if the Chinese do invade I want to be in the trenches next to RickDaddy and on the counterattack HogNation would beat the shite outof all billion of them.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 7/7/12 at 11:01 pm to
But it isn't just my opinion. If it was solely mine, margin of victory wouldn't have been eliminated from the BCS formula to begin with. Margin of victory represented a subjective component, and as such, it was eliminated from the formula. Again. Formula. Do you believe a formula can be completely objective, or varying degrees of such? Do you think margin of victory represents a subjective metric and should have been eliminated on that basis from the BCS formula?
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Dystopia (but well cared for)
Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 7/7/12 at 11:02 pm to
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LSU is 1-7-1 all time at Kyle Field.

Ya know last year, on another blog, I heard from a certain fanbase 3Outta4KissDaBoot maybe, I don't know, 9 trillion times. Just saying.
This post was edited on 7/7/12 at 11:03 pm
Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
5606 posts
Posted on 7/7/12 at 11:05 pm to
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But it isn't just my opinion. If it was solely mine, margin of victory wouldn't have been eliminated from the BCS formula to begin with. Margin of victory represented a subjective component, and as such, it was eliminated from the formula. Again. Formula. Do you believe a formula can be completely objective, or varying degrees of such? Do you think margin of victory represents a subjective metric and should have been eliminated on that basis from the BCS formula?

Do you think any system that crowns a college football champion, past, present or future is not going to have some level of subjectivity to it? Really? You think a committee(read--poll) that picks four teams for a playoff is somehow less subjective than the BCS? What about the old bowl system...that was real objective, huh? Get out of fantasy land and come down to reality and we can have an intelligent discussion about the champion crowning process. Your unicorn fantasy land stuff about 100% objectivity in ordeer for it to be legitimate is laughable and campletely outside the realm of reality for college football with 120+ FBS teams.
This post was edited on 7/7/12 at 11:08 pm
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