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Posted on 2/28/13 at 3:56 pm to engie
Wtf do I need to prove to you, I wasn't the one who said they would have been a baseball power regardless of coaching, you did.
Your argument for Irvine becoming a baseball power regardless of Serrano is purely subjective and speculation.
Your argument for Irvine becoming a baseball power regardless of Serrano is purely subjective and speculation.
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 4:04 pm to bubbz
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Your argument for Irvine becoming a baseball power regardless of Serrano is purely subjective and speculation.
Nope, 4 recruiting classes and 4 games above .500 and during the first 3 years makes them a sure fire college baseball power. Remember, she said that anybody was going to have success after they reinstated the program. Savage was 4 games above .500 and Serrano improved on it and made history that Gillespie has built upon. Serrano though gets no credit for the players that she says have made Gillespie tenure "better". Savage's recruiting classes are what made UC-I's CWS run though.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 4:08 pm to FulmersGonnaFixIt
Serrano sucks 
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 4:29 pm to bubbz
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Serrano sucks
Also, moron fails to realize that the majority of that 2007 CWS team were Serrano recruits:
In 2007:
Sean Madigan - FR (not recruited by Savage) Hit .333 Serrano
Dylan Axelrod - SR (came from JUCO) Serrano
Scott Gorgon - SO (not recruited by Savage) Ace of Staff,l All American Serrano
Cody Cipriano - Senior - credit to Savage
Ollie Linton - Sophomore, Serrano
Taylor Holiday Junior - transferred from ASU AFTER the 2005 season, Serrano
Wes Etheridge - JUCO, 2007 was first season with UCI - Serrano
Blair Erickson - Senior - Savage
Bryan Petersen - Junior - brought in by Serrano after he took the job
Tyler Vaughn Junior - transfer from NB after 2005 season, Serrano
Francis Larson - FROSH brought in by Serrano
Matt Morris - JUCO brought in by Serrano
Aaron Lowenstein - SR, brought in by Savage
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 4:30 pm to FulmersGonnaFixIt
Don't tell him that...
I really like Serrano a lot honestly. I think he will have Tennessee contending in the East in a season or two.
I really like Serrano a lot honestly. I think he will have Tennessee contending in the East in a season or two.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 4:49 pm to bubbz
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Don't tell him that...
One more stat for Mr. Moron:
That 2009 team that got a national seed and won the Big West in Gilispie's 2nd year...the pitching staff was comprised of all Junior and Seniors who were recruited by Serrano:
Bibona, Daniel...... 2.63 12-1
Bergman, Christian.. 3.50 9-3
Pettis, Eric........ 3.86 5-2
Avison, Noel........ 3.86 3-1
Necke, Kyle......... 4.50 1-4
Bardeen, Brock...... 4.63 5-0
Dufour, Matt........ 5.85 2-0
All but like 1 pitcher on that staff were Serrano recruits.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 4:52 pm to FulmersGonnaFixIt
Shhhhhhh
Posted on 2/28/13 at 4:53 pm to FulmersGonnaFixIt
You seem butt hurt that Tennessee sucks.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 4:58 pm to bubbz
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Wtf do I need to prove to you, I wasn't the one who said they would have been a baseball power regardless of coaching, you did.
Your argument for Irvine becoming a baseball power regardless of Serrano is purely subjective and speculation.
You are the one saying he's a coaching great -- when he's been average at both stops.
Your argument saying that they wouldn't have been is also purely subjective and speculation. They are -- and he's not the coach there right now.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 5:02 pm to FulmersGonnaFixIt
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Also, moron fails to realize that the majority of that 2007 CWS team were Serrano recruits:
So, you should compete for CWS in year 3 and be a regional team this year then at Tennessee. No doubt, right? After all, it obviously only takes 3 years to build a national title contender, so you should certainly be a team to compete this season and fear next season... if Serrano is as good as you are trying to imply he is...
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 5:56 pm to engie
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Your argument saying that they wouldn't have been is also purely subjective and speculation. They are -- and he's not the coach there right now.
Please link me to where I said this... good luck finding it, because I have never said it.
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when he's been average at both stops
So he took an average baseball team in UC Irvine and took them to Omaha for the FIRST time ever, but yet that's average. You should know what average is, because that's all Miss St has ever been.
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So, you should compete for CWS in year 3 and be a regional team this year then at Tennessee. No doubt, right? After all, it obviously only takes 3 years to build a national title contender, so you should certainly be a team to compete this season and fear next season... if Serrano is as good as you are trying to imply he is...
CSF and UT are not on the same wave lengths in baseball. Comparing what talent CSF had to what Tennessee has is like comparing LSU's talent with Auburn.
Honestly I think they are a year away from a regional.
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 6:59 pm to engie
So now we are back to talking about cws appearances? Gillespie has none in 5 years at Irvine. Serrano will have us in a regional next year. This year is still to be determined. What he took over at Tennessee was beyond bad from a talent standpoint. We have 18 freshmen on this years team for a reason. He has some go
Posted on 2/28/13 at 7:00 pm to engie
So now we are back to talking about cws appearances? Gillespie has none in 5 years at Irvine. Serrano will have us in a regional next year. This year is still to be determined. What he took over at Tennessee was beyond bad from a talent standpoint. We have 18 freshmen on this years team for a reason. He has some a good class coming in next year and the 2015 class looks really great right now with 3 or 4 top 100 players.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 7:22 pm to bubbz
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CSF and UT are not on the same wave lengths in baseball. Comparing what talent CSF had to what Tennessee has is like comparing LSU's talent with Auburn.
I'm talking about UC Irvine here. Not CSF. I've proven THAT point beyond doubt already. He obviously built the entire Ervine program in 3 years(no credit to the previous guy, remember?). Surely, he can do the same in Knoxville, no? Surely Tennessee is a better and easier job than UC Irvine. It had only been a program for 3 years. After all, the last real coach at UT took them to Omaha 3 times in just over 10 years. So, what gives?
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So he took an average baseball team in UC Irvine and took them to Omaha for the FIRST time ever, but yet that's average.
Yet the team got better when he left. Paul Gregory -- all-time greatest coach evAr at MSU!!1!1
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You should know what average is, because that's all Miss St has ever been.
201-166-1.
Can't wait to hear the excuses. quote:
Honestly I think they are a year away from a regional.
So, he gets total credit for building a national power at UC Irvine in the same amount of time it takes him to (maybe) make a regional at UT? See the discrepancy here? Actually, you probably don't...
Posted on 2/28/13 at 7:31 pm to engie
Todd Raleigh tore down the program to nothing in his 4 years there. The guy tried to keep his job threatening to go public with ncaa violations. He isnt and will never coach at the D1 level again. So it may take serrano 4 years to get to regional. This year is still tbd last time i checked.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 7:43 pm to engie
So Serrano has to get to the cws in year 3 when it took Cohen 3 years just to get to a regional and none so far at a powerhouse baseball school? Lol at his first two seasons in starkville. Henderson at uk is a mich better coach than the average cohen.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 7:43 pm to engie
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So, he gets total credit for building a national power at UC Irvine in the same amount of time it takes him to (maybe) make a regional at UT? See the discrepancy here? Actually, you probably don't...
I think it's a little more difficult in a conference such as the SEC compared to the Big West. Just a little
. Posted on 2/28/13 at 7:52 pm to bubbz
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I think it's a little more difficult in a conference such as the SEC compared to the Big West. Just a little .
Really? It's more difficult to build a program that has been to Omaha 3 times in the previous two decades than it is to build one that had existed for 3 years prior to taking over? But the 2nd program wasn't an imminent powerhouse? You are a real walking contradiction on this, aren't you?
The road to Omaha is more difficult in the SEC than it is everywhere else? Who knew? Could have sworn everyone had the same opportunity from the regionals forward...
Posted on 2/28/13 at 8:02 pm to engie
Moron, Delmonico was such a good coach he is still unemployed. He did good when he wanted to which was every 4 years or so. Other than that he was lazy and left next to nothing for Raleigh who did literally nothing for 4 years and made it worse.
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