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Posted on 7/18/22 at 8:37 pm to Irons Puppet
Posted on 7/18/22 at 8:37 pm to Irons Puppet
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Come on Junior, the NCAA works totally different. Again, they do not care about any final record in CF Division I games. You can google any website and get an answer you believe, but the NCAA is the final authority on this. The real reason why forfeits are scarce is because the NCAA has promoted cooperation and wants the schools to submit a report with punishment. That is where the schools choose to vacate wins. Alabama was the last cowboy that got its dick slapped.
I mean Ohio St vacated it's wins after being caught directly lying to the NCAA to the point of it ending with their coach getting multi-year show cause.
And of course, USC itself was given lack of institutional control, LSU just got it to the point of having their case sent to a special committee. Ole Miss denied denied denied.
Everything you say is false. I'm not even sure how it can't be on purpose.
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Posted on 7/18/22 at 8:40 pm to Tuscaloosa
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"There is a difference," Dee said."It's not semantics -- it's real -- between vacation and forfeiture," Dee continued. "In vacation, only the team involved, only in wins, do they vacate the wins. In forfeiture, you would not only vacate the win, but the opponent would improve their record. This was not a forfeiture, so therefore the rule only applies to the University of Alabama. It does not allow for any other university to improve its record."
That's why, in Alabama's revised results, the Tide was 0-2 in 2005, 0-7 in 2006, and 2-6 in 2007. Nothing for the opponents changed
Which is exactly why schools offer up vacated wins vs the NCAA forcing forfeiture. Dee doesn't bother explaining if the NCAA force forfeitures it would throw schools into legal battle with their own coaches. Even well after the fact. There is not a coach in the country the last 20 years that didn't have wins as part of their contract. The definition is only there to protect the member schools from litigation and backpay.
This post was edited on 7/18/22 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 7/18/22 at 8:47 pm to 3down10
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I mean Ohio St vacated it's wins after being caught directly lying to the NCAA to the point of it ending with their coach getting multi-year show cause.
And of course, USC itself was given lack of institutional control, LSU just got it to the point of having their case sent to a special committee. Ole Miss denied denied denied.
Everything you say is false. I'm not even sure how it can't be on purpose.
Again, did the NCAA vacate those wins or did the school agree to vacate those wins? Show cause is about a coaches next job.
Lack of institutional control has nothing to due with the on the field results, it is about punishing the school for turning a blind eye. The NCAA looks at it differently if it doesn't involve recruiting or a coverup to a know violation.
What is LSUs final punishment? Any forfeits or vacated wins.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 8:54 pm to Irons Puppet
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Irons Puppet
Just make this your avatar. It describes you as a person better than anything else. Pretending you're owning everyone while knowing deep down that you're completely full of shite and your fabricated arguments are built on nothing but weak opinions and that you're destined to lose.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 8:57 pm to Irons Puppet
Ole Miss told the NCAA to kick rocks. They didn’t agree to a damn thing. Wins vacated, not forfeited. Because “agreeing to it” has not jack shite to do with it, and you won’t find a single source that backs what you’re saying.
2004 USC was undefeated.
2004 USC was undefeated.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 9:10 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Ole Miss told the NCAA to kick rocks. They didn’t agree to a damn thing. Wins vacated, not forfeited. Because “agreeing to it” has not jack shite to do with it, and you won’t find a single source that backs what you’re saying.
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Ole miss vacates wins and are not forced to vacate the wins. What don't you understand about that. Even Bjork admits
“It’s the last part of this process,” Bjork said, according to Rivals.com. “In a way it’s just a piece of paper because you saw those games.”
Ole Miss agreed to vacate those wins and you can not find a quote by anyone the says they refuse to acknowledge games as wins.
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2004 USC was undefeated.
Your simplistic mind thinks if you vacate the wins the game never happened, thus a team that vacates an undefeated season can still claim an undefeated season and a NC.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 9:11 pm to Irons Puppet
You are not a real person.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 9:14 pm to Marktastic86
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Marktastic86
You Bammers live in your own world and are lead by a guy who is 5'6".
Posted on 7/18/22 at 9:18 pm to Irons Puppet
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Again, did the NCAA vacate those wins or did the school agree to vacate those wins? Show cause is about a coaches next job.
Lack of institutional control has nothing to due with the on the field results, it is about punishing the school for turning a blind eye. The NCAA looks at it differently if it doesn't involve recruiting or a coverup to a know violation.
What is LSUs final punishment? Any forfeits or vacated wins.
Can't fix stupid, but I can stop wasting time on it.
You make LSUStephen seem reasonable.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 9:26 pm to 3down10
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Can't fix stupid, but I can stop wasting time on it.
Because you can't argue against it. You are the one who looks foolish with your understanding of NCAA procedures and rulings. But you will never see the truth because of your bammer ignorance and defense of anything relating to Bama. It is a stretch in this case, but you still went the hole 9 yards.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 9:38 pm to Irons Puppet
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You are the one who looks foolish with your understanding of NCAA procedures and rulings.
Unreal.
Was USC’s 2004 football team undefeated or not?
Posted on 7/18/22 at 9:40 pm to Stidham8
And it’s July.. Alabama gonna be top 3 when it’s all said and done.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 10:15 pm to Tuscaloosa
On the field with ineligible players. Not in the record books with those who determine the mythical NC.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 10:16 pm to Irons Puppet
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in the record books with those who determine the mythical NC.
Oh? Which games went into the record books as losses?
Posted on 7/18/22 at 10:31 pm to Irons Puppet
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Worst poster is the best poster on here. A counter to the Cult gets my vote. I'm sure there are others more worthy.
This sums up Irons Puppet better than any post he's ever made. Up is down and down is up.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 10:32 pm to Tuscaloosa
Those game vacated. Did USC vacate the BCSNC? Why would the BCS not give the championship for a game set up by the BCS and won by USC?
Can you vacate a home and still claim ownership. Can you vacate a Marriage and not have to pay child support or alimony? Sounds like you want to redefine the word.
Can you vacate a home and still claim ownership. Can you vacate a Marriage and not have to pay child support or alimony? Sounds like you want to redefine the word.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 10:36 pm to Nitro Express
The Cult trying to claim a championship when a team was caught cheating and were sent to prison for it. But they want the team to reap the benefits of the cheating when the NCAA says no way. That defines Bama fans better than any post.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 10:43 pm to Irons Puppet
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Those game vacated. Did USC vacate the BCSNC? Why would the BCS not give the championship for a game set up by the BCS and won by USC? Can you vacate a home and still claim ownership. Can you vacate a Marriage and not have to pay child support or alimony? Sounds like you want to redefine the word.
None of this is relevant to your comment:
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2004, only undefeated team from a major conference.
Which you’ve finally admitted you were wrong about - after several pages of nonsensical tail chasing.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 10:51 pm to MoarKilometers
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quote:The decline is real.
As real as your ability to read this thread.
This is hall of fame type posting from the gumps.
Then there’s 3 gumpier gumps upvoting this gumpsastional post.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 10:56 pm to Tuscaloosa
It is all relevant. USC was caught cheating and used an ineligible player in the Championship Game. The NCAA caught them and USC not only admitted to the violation but vacated the win. By vacating the win they forfeited the NC and the trophy. To do that is is a loss and a win wasn't awarded to OU. You claim a vacated game means the game never happened based on your made up definition, so if that was the case there were two major college undefeated teams. But Auburn is the only recognized undefeated team by the BCS.Because they do not recognize USC as an undefeated team. Man you are dense, you argue againt yourself. Lol.
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