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re: So Alabama, who's the next basketball coach?
Posted on 2/11/09 at 10:39 am to Tiger Authority
Posted on 2/11/09 at 10:39 am to Tiger Authority
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Trent Johnson was the second best coach in the SEC before he even coached a minute in the SEC based on his accomplishments at both Nevada and Stanford.
Debatable. Just remember that he's gotta go to a Final 4 to be better than Brady.
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Posted on 2/11/09 at 10:41 am to Tiger Authority
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Trent Johnson was the second best coach in the SEC before he even coached a minute in the SEC
Can't really agree with that. I'm thrilled to have Trent,but I wouldn't automatically put him over Pearl,or Kevin Stallings right now.
Posted on 2/11/09 at 10:42 am to LuckyLee
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Just remember that he's gotta go to a Final 4 to be better than Brady.
not really,unless you are implying Mark Gottfried was a better coach than CM Newton since Gottfried took a team to the Elite 8 and Newton never did.I hope you don't think that.
Posted on 2/11/09 at 10:51 am to I-59 Tiger
Newton was before the tourney expansion. In today's CBB, NCAA tourney performance is what matters. Yeah winning the conference regular season and tourney are great, but if you go out in the 2nd round of the NCAA tourney every year those accomplishments lose their luster.
Posted on 2/11/09 at 10:54 am to LuckyLee
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Debatable. Just remember that he's gotta go to a Final 4 to be better than Brady.
When did I say that? Oh that's right you're just spinning your wheels again like the other day on the LSU basketball conversation pertaining to the RPI.
Not to mention Brady isn't in the SEC anymore, so your argument is fvcking stupid. Go do some research on the SEC coaches and find me some info that would say that TJ isn't the best coach. The best option is either at kentucky or vandy and I still fee confident.
Posted on 2/11/09 at 10:58 am to I-59 Tiger
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Can't really agree with that. I'm thrilled to have Trent,but I wouldn't automatically put him over Pearl,or Kevin Stallings right now.
Pearl has a case IMO and I shouldn't have overlooked him.
This post was edited on 2/11/09 at 10:59 am
Posted on 2/11/09 at 10:59 am to Tiger Authority
I guess Pearl's current season is weighing on me too heavily.
Posted on 2/11/09 at 11:01 am to LuckyLee
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Newton was before the tourney expansion
Well,he was at Alabama when it first opened up in '75 but he was at Vanderbilt when it fully opened up.
Posted on 2/11/09 at 11:04 am to Tiger Authority
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When did I say that? Oh that's right you're just spinning your wheels again like the other day on the LSU basketball conversation pertaining to the RPI.
You don't understand what RPI is. I'm not going to go through this again.
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Go do some research on the SEC coaches and find me some info that would say that TJ isn't the best coach.
TJ has been to 2 sweet 16s. He's a good coach, but don't act like he's elite. Stallings has done just as much as Johnson.
Posted on 2/11/09 at 11:06 am to LuckyLee
And now that I'm looking at it, Pearl has done more than Johnson in less time.
Posted on 2/11/09 at 11:11 am to LuckyLee
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You don't understand what RPI is. I'm not going to go through this again.
You're a fvcking moron and we've been over this before as well. Everyone disagreed with you and everyone thought that general "you just don't understand the RPI" was a total copout and made you sound like an idiot.
And in regard to the SEC, TJ is elite.
Posted on 2/11/09 at 11:12 am to LuckyLee
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And now that I'm looking at it, Pearl has done more than Johnson in less time.
Pearl certainly has a case but he's been the consummate underachiever since he's been at Tenn considering their seeding and their results.
Posted on 2/11/09 at 11:18 am to Tiger Authority
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You're a fvcking moron and we've been over this before as well. Everyone disagreed with you and everyone thought that general "you just don't understand the RPI" was a total copout and made you sound like an idiot.
Homers on the Tiger Rant disagreed with me, let's just get that straight. I didn't even insult LSU either.
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And in regard to the SEC, TJ is elite.
He's not better than Billy D or Pearl and he's probably on par with Stallings. There's only one elite coach in the SEC. No one outside of rantards (ie you) would argue that trent Johnson is an elite CBB coach even for the SEC.
Posted on 2/11/09 at 11:21 am to Tiger Authority
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Pearl certainly has a case but he's been the consummate underachiever since he's been at Tenn considering their seeding and their results.
Just stop posting about CBB, you don't know what you're talking about. Tenn has been to the NCAA tourney every year since Pearl's arrival. Tenn has been to 5 sweet 16s all time, 2 under Pearl. Tenn has never been past the sweet 16.
Posted on 2/11/09 at 11:22 am to LuckyLee
Travis Ford..
Posted on 2/11/09 at 11:23 am to LuckyLee
When I said second I obviously conceded the Donovan point. Why would I argue otherwise considering Donovan has two titles back to back?
Second, Pearl is an underachiever IMO. I don't think it's clear that he's better than TJ. He went to an extra sweet sixteen while at UW-Mil but he's been a two seed at Tenn and can't get out of the sweet sixteen. Pearl is an exciting guy that can recruit but he leaves a lot to be desired IMO. This year isn't helping him.
And my argument with Stallings would be that Johnson was able to win in the Pac 10, which is a better basketball conference than the SEC.
Second, Pearl is an underachiever IMO. I don't think it's clear that he's better than TJ. He went to an extra sweet sixteen while at UW-Mil but he's been a two seed at Tenn and can't get out of the sweet sixteen. Pearl is an exciting guy that can recruit but he leaves a lot to be desired IMO. This year isn't helping him.
And my argument with Stallings would be that Johnson was able to win in the Pac 10, which is a better basketball conference than the SEC.
Posted on 2/11/09 at 11:26 am to LuckyLee
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Just stop posting about CBB, you don't know what you're talking about. Tenn has been to the NCAA tourney every year since Pearl's arrival. Tenn has been to 5 sweet 16s all time, 2 under Pearl. Tenn has never been past the sweet 16.
2 seeds losing in the sweet sixteen isn't overly impressive.
Posted on 2/11/09 at 11:27 am to Tiger Authority
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Second, Pearl is an underachiever IMO.
That's stupid.
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I don't think it's clear that he's better than TJ.
He's done more than TJ in less time as a HC. Tenn is a really shitty school for basketball and Pearl has made them relevant.
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He went to an extra sweet sixteen while at UW-Mil but he's been a two seed at Tenn and can't get out of the sweet sixteen.
One year he had a semi disappointing NCAA tourney, yet still went to the sweet 16.
Posted on 2/11/09 at 11:29 am to Tiger Authority
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2 seeds losing in the sweet sixteen isn't overly impressive.
You're basing his career at Tenn on 1 NCAA tourney where he still went to the sweet 16.
You don't know much about Tenn basketball. Their program is worse than Bama's historically.
Posted on 2/11/09 at 11:32 am to LuckyLee
You keep acting like TJ has been a head coach for ten years longer than Pearl, which isn't close to being the case.
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