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re: Pod system
Posted on 8/17/19 at 7:46 pm to southernboisb
Posted on 8/17/19 at 7:46 pm to southernboisb
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Every year, your group 1 of 3 teams will always result in 1H/1A. Either group of 4 pods will result in 2H/2A. That now has you at 3H/3A.
I'm with you here. All 6 teams in the 3-team pods have 3 home divisional games and 3 away divisional games.
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This now falls to the schedule with the other group of 3 pod. If A plays: D, @E, & F...that makes 5H/4A. B would play: @D, E, @F. Unfortunately, this now has B with a 4H/5A schedule.
Ok, you lost me here. You've unnecessarily given two away games for team Team B against teams D, E & F -- the 3 teams in the other 3-team pod.
With a 9-game schedule, the 6 teams in the two 3-team pods play a total of nine games against one another. That means it's entirely possible for all 3 teams in one group of three to have 2 home games apiece against the teams in the other group of 3. That's 6 of the 9 total. So all three teams in the other 3-team pod would have 1 home game apiece against the teams in the other pod.
EXAMPLE: Pod 1 consists of teams A, B & C. Pod 2 consists of teams, D, E & F.
Team A plays D & F at home and E on the road. (5 total home games)
Team B plays E & F at home and D on the road. (5 total home games)
Team C plays D & E at home and F on the road. (5 total home games)
therefore
Team D plays B at home and A & C on the road (4 total home games)
Team E plays A at home and B & C on the road (4 total home games)
Team F plays C at home and A & B on the road (4 total home games)
This post was edited on 8/17/19 at 7:48 pm
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Posted on 8/17/19 at 8:39 pm to PHS
southernboisb, I'm going to cut to the chase...
I have never considered The Roommate Switch under a scenario wherein the divisions change every year, the way the OP suggests. Reason being, I think it's an improper way to go about it.
See, if the divisions switch every year rather than every other year, the intra-divisional home/away matrices of the 4 distinct impermanent divisions would not fully mirror themselves each time they reform, the way permanent divisions do. I think that impermanent divisions ought to resemble permanent ones in all respects outside of permanency.
For that reason, I have only ever considered The Roommate Switch under the assumption that the divisions change every other year rather than every year...
That said, I can tell you that if the switch IS made every other year under a 9-game deal, it is indeed possible for ALL teams to ALWAYS have the same number of designated home games as the other teams within its division (either 4 or 5) and the same number of designated road games (either 5 or 4). Same as if the SEC were using 9-game schedules today with 14 teams and 2 permanent divisions of 7. Same as the B1G does it today..
However, under a 9-game Roommate Switch model, it is not possible for all teams to alternate between 4 & 5 designated home games (or vice versa) each and every year the way it is when using permanent divisions of 7. Half of the field (all three teams in one pod of 3 and all four teams in one pod of 4) would have to play their two 5-home game seasons per 4-year cycle consecutively and their two 4-home game seasons per 4-year cycle consecutively -- with the two being off-set from one another.)
Is that unfair? No, not it you could convince or induce 7 schools to agree to it. As I said above, all teams would always have the exact same number of home and away conference games as the other teams in its current division. ALWAYS...
Of course, this is all academic. The SEC is never, ever, ever, ever going to use an impermanent divisional model. If it were willing to do such a thing, it would be doing it today.
Interesting to think about, though...
I have never considered The Roommate Switch under a scenario wherein the divisions change every year, the way the OP suggests. Reason being, I think it's an improper way to go about it.
See, if the divisions switch every year rather than every other year, the intra-divisional home/away matrices of the 4 distinct impermanent divisions would not fully mirror themselves each time they reform, the way permanent divisions do. I think that impermanent divisions ought to resemble permanent ones in all respects outside of permanency.
For that reason, I have only ever considered The Roommate Switch under the assumption that the divisions change every other year rather than every year...
That said, I can tell you that if the switch IS made every other year under a 9-game deal, it is indeed possible for ALL teams to ALWAYS have the same number of designated home games as the other teams within its division (either 4 or 5) and the same number of designated road games (either 5 or 4). Same as if the SEC were using 9-game schedules today with 14 teams and 2 permanent divisions of 7. Same as the B1G does it today..
However, under a 9-game Roommate Switch model, it is not possible for all teams to alternate between 4 & 5 designated home games (or vice versa) each and every year the way it is when using permanent divisions of 7. Half of the field (all three teams in one pod of 3 and all four teams in one pod of 4) would have to play their two 5-home game seasons per 4-year cycle consecutively and their two 4-home game seasons per 4-year cycle consecutively -- with the two being off-set from one another.)
Is that unfair? No, not it you could convince or induce 7 schools to agree to it. As I said above, all teams would always have the exact same number of home and away conference games as the other teams in its current division. ALWAYS...
Of course, this is all academic. The SEC is never, ever, ever, ever going to use an impermanent divisional model. If it were willing to do such a thing, it would be doing it today.
Interesting to think about, though...
This post was edited on 8/17/19 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 8/18/19 at 11:46 am to PHS
I see what you're saying. I was over thinking things & trying to alternate it yearly.
It never crossed my mind to, as you put it, rotate between the other group of 3 in locations (A@D, B@E, C@F).
I was going by what the SEC seems to be doing now: perm c-d games @ home & rotated c-d games away...then flip next year.
Unfortunately, the only way teams are going to be happy is with an even setup (3H/3A, 4H/4A, 5H/5A). This doesn't give the headache of less home games. However, 10 games won't work for the 4 SECE teams.
What I AM shocked by is the SEC had however long before including TA&M & Mizz. & came up with the current plan as the best solution. (Then again, 14 isn't an easy # to work with.)
It never crossed my mind to, as you put it, rotate between the other group of 3 in locations (A@D, B@E, C@F).
I was going by what the SEC seems to be doing now: perm c-d games @ home & rotated c-d games away...then flip next year.
Unfortunately, the only way teams are going to be happy is with an even setup (3H/3A, 4H/4A, 5H/5A). This doesn't give the headache of less home games. However, 10 games won't work for the 4 SECE teams.
What I AM shocked by is the SEC had however long before including TA&M & Mizz. & came up with the current plan as the best solution. (Then again, 14 isn't an easy # to work with.)
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