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Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:23 am to DC RaiseHerBack
quote:are you trying to argue that ark has improved since then? because i watched the ole miss and vandy games. lsu is going to control the clock with the run game.
It was our 4th game of the year, first away game and first SEC game. What do you not understand about that?
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:23 am to GoldenHebert
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Points scored as a guage of offensive prowess is illogical. As is points against for defense. Yards, IMO, tells a much better story of the actual effectiveness of each team.
As a team goes I believe the score determines wins and loses, which also determines rankings, so yards, IMO, are great to look and drool over but still you have to put points on the board and keep people from scoring...bottomline
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:24 am to Chimlim
quote:Going to be a longggggg and tiring 4th quarter for their defense, just like every other team we have faced.
So you're saying Arkansas has no depth?
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:24 am to ocelot4ark
my point is that you have a shite defense and an abysmal running game
where have you proven me wrong?
by comparing STATS of a player not on your team against a common opponent? that doesn't prove anything
where have you proven me wrong?
by comparing STATS of a player not on your team against a common opponent? that doesn't prove anything
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:24 am to Chimlim
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So you're saying Arkansas has no depth? That's the difference, we can play our 3 and 4th string Dlinemen without losing a beat. Hell we were without our two starting corners against Auburn and we allowed 161 passing yards and 87 rushing yards.
Exactly. We could withstand losing 1 DE, maybe, and still look okay on defense. But it's when we lost BOTH of them that it looked absolutely horrendous (A&M).
For some reason we moved one of our best DEs against the run last year (Miles-Nash) to TE during the offseason. He's been flip flopped a bunch. They moved him back to defense a week or 2 ago. I didn't like the move in the first place. Dude should be a full time DE. Was really surprised they didnt' move him after the 2 early injuries.
We have good depth at DT, but not at DE. Not at all. That's why we recruited about a dozen DEs over the past 2 years. But the ones on campus are still way too young to be expected to contribute this year outside of the 2 preseason SEC guys.
Now, one of those freshman has looked very promising over the past few games. But he's still a little light and needs to add some pounds to help in rush defense.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:26 am to Chimlim
Heard this all last year. PP7 will own us blah blah. Jefferson will run wild blah blah. Ridley will shred you blah blah.
You'd think you kitties would talk trash after the game.
Just wait until the game. God damn it's 3 weeks away. We both have two opponents before that.
You'd think you kitties would talk trash after the game.
Just wait until the game. God damn it's 3 weeks away. We both have two opponents before that.
This post was edited on 11/10/11 at 10:28 am
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:27 am to ocelot4ark
that's a long list of terrible excuses
I haven't watched y'all enough to know for myself, but do teams tend to get their rushing yards up the gut or on the outside?
I haven't watched y'all enough to know for myself, but do teams tend to get their rushing yards up the gut or on the outside?
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:28 am to ocelot4ark
quote:you realize that what happened in past lsu/ark games has absolutely no effect on the upcoming one, right?
Arkansas never beats LSU, guys. They give it away. Here's to another gift, hopefully
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:28 am to dkreller
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my point is that you have a shite defense and an abysmal running game
where have you proven me wrong?
By looking at STATS you're drawing those conclusions. If you'd just open your retard mind up to thinking outside the box, you'd see the explanation. We are not a great defense now. But we're nowhere NEAR as bad as we've shown throughout the season. Injuries. To. Top. 2. Defensive. Ends.
If you think that the DL you will face on black friday will look the same as the DL Ole Miss or Vandy got to play against, well, I'd suggest you switch to weed...cause the meth isn't doing you any favors.
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by comparing STATS of a player not on your team against a common opponent? that doesn't prove anything
I'm sorry. Did you NOT just say that USCe can't score on anyone? I'm refuting that claim by showing that they could move the ball just as easily on the ground against Tennessee as LSU did.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:29 am to bfniii
sounds familiar to Auburn fans before we played them 
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:31 am to bfniii
quote:I don't know about that for this game, there will be a huge revenge factor for this LSU team for happened last year.
you realize that what happened in past lsu/ark games has absolutely no effect on the upcoming one, right?
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:31 am to dkreller
Auburn said they were going to shred us up too and win.
They got cocky there for a few weeks. But thrashings by lsu and ark shut them up now.
They got cocky there for a few weeks. But thrashings by lsu and ark shut them up now.
This post was edited on 11/10/11 at 10:32 am
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:31 am to dkreller
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that's a long list of FACTS.
Would LSU be better with, or without, a starting offensive lineman? Staring DE?
Those players are starters for a reason. They're better. Thereby, the loss of such starter will have an obvious impact on the effectiveness of the defense.
I don't know how much more simple I can break this down for you.
ONCE AGAIN. I'm not saying we'll win. I don't think we will. I'm saying that we're a better team now. Coincidentally seems to occur as we get healthier.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:34 am to ocelot4ark
FACTS....EXCUSES....same thing in this case
we would be the same....still awesome cuz we have depth
eta - RE: Injuries.....another reason why I was laughing at Hawg fans who were shrugging off injuries in the preseason. Now is when you need your depth and you don't have it.
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Would LSU be better with, or without, a starting offensive lineman? Staring DE?
we would be the same....still awesome cuz we have depth
eta - RE: Injuries.....another reason why I was laughing at Hawg fans who were shrugging off injuries in the preseason. Now is when you need your depth and you don't have it.
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This post was edited on 11/10/11 at 10:38 am
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:34 am to ocelot4ark
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Points scored as a guage of offensive prowess is illogical. As is points against for defense. Yards, IMO, tells a much better story of the actual effectiveness of each team.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:38 am to junkfunky
Are y'all excited about the Mallet - Ridley connection that's gonna be going on in NE whenever Brady hangs it up.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:39 am to GoldenHebert
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You can have short fields all day, I'd take an offense that can score as opposed to one that racks up yards...I'm not disagreeing that Arkansas has a good QB and great play makers on the outside..all I am saying is our offense is not as terrible as you think.
LSU has shorter fields. Because your defense is so awesome. Is it easier to score on a short field or a long field?
You have a good offense that is helped significantly by the position it's put in by your defense.
Obviously, points are the best measure to gauge wins and losses. Wins and losses encompass offense, defense, and special teams.
Yards is the only measure that is a strict measure of offensive success.
Look at it this way. Let's say, hypothetically, that LSU had the best defense ever known to man and scored 5 defensive touchdown every game. That would be 35 points a game and at the top of the SEC in scoring. And then let's say that the offense was equally bad, never scoring any points. LSU would avg 35 points a game. So you're saying that the offense would be one of the best in the league, right?
Points is a simplistic measure.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:39 am to ocelot4ark
quote:our starting DE was injured for the Auburn game... along with our starting C, and three other starters (two CBs and RB) were suspended...
Would LSU be better with, or without, a starting offensive lineman? Staring DE?
final score: 45-10
oh, and our best OL has been injured all season.
This post was edited on 11/10/11 at 10:41 am
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:39 am to ocelot4ark
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Would LSU be better with, or without, a starting offensive lineman? Staring DE?
LSU has been without 2 starting offensive lineman for most of the season, we were without 1 since the season started.
All of our DEs are rotated throughout the game. "Starter" just means they play the first play from scrimmage, at least at LSU.
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