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re: Hypothetically if Muschamp went 1-11...

Posted on 9/24/19 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 4:24 pm to
Hypothetically if your Aunt Jean had balls she'd be your Uncle John.

But that's not going to happen, now is it Sunbeam. Be honest. You know better, I know you do.

I don't get this self destructive stuff from so many of our fans when our coaches and players are out there busting their asses to turn this thing around.

Sheeeesh, y'all never would have survived some of the old days.

Frickin people wanted to fire SPURrier after his fourth AND fifth years for that matter.

Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
18495 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 4:33 pm to
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What? I'm talking about just hitting the passes where he had open receivers and was off the mark. That's not saving something for later in the schedule, it's just successfully executing the plays that were called. He was finding open receivers and then missing the target. Also, if your damn coaches elected to hold something back in a loss to Wyoming then you might have bigger problems than just an inaccurate rental at QB.


I think Kelly Bryant is not 100 percent ready to get the offense going for Missouri. Not going to worry about that right now. He still have time to catch up with the offense plays and practicing more on throwing to the receivers during the bye week. Also still plenty of time to improve on being a good quarterback for Missouri down the stretch.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33369 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 4:34 pm to
I think SC will finish 5-7. Not great obviously, but not a fireable excuse considering the schedule
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 4:39 pm to
He won’t get fired unless he does something bad off the field
I wasn’t ever a fan of the hire, I’m not a fan of the hire, I wouldn’t like him to be our coach but He’s our coach right now

I don’t think we will succeed with him here but he still has time to change that


Only time will tell
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 4:41 pm to
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I don't get this self destructive stuff from so many of our fans when our coaches and players are out there busting their asses to turn this thing around.


Thank you.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33369 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 4:49 pm to
We run into this same thing where some Mizzou fans will do their best to try to drag down the current regime because they didn’t like the hire. It’s so counter productive I have a hard time believing they actually want to win. I truly believe some of them are happier when we lose because they can wallow in sorrow and for some reason that is more enjoyable to them.

It’s weird
Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
Member since Apr 2015
24669 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 4:52 pm to
Muschamp would never resign. Not with his “bunker mentality”
Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 4:53 pm to
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We run into this same thing where some Mizzou fans will do their best to try to drag down the current regime because they didn’t like the hire. It’s so counter productive I have a hard time believing they actually want to win. I truly believe some of them are happier when we lose because they can wallow in sorrow and for some reason that is more enjoyable to them.

It’s weird



The flip side of your argument is it can be apparent that something is bad, and needs to change.

But some people don't see it, like a battered housewife whose husband beats the sh*t out of her: "He's really changed this time."
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
18495 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 4:57 pm to
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The flip side of your argument is it can be apparent that something is bad, and needs to change. But some people don't see it, like a battered housewife whose husband beats the sh*t out of her: "He's really changed this time."


That is not the same thing as being a head coach to make changes when he have a rookie quarterback that just took over for one that got hurt and a very tough schedule to go with it.
Posted by HoldenOversoul
South Carolina
Member since Oct 2012
520 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 5:28 pm to
I don’t doubt that Muschamp works hard. He just isn’t willing or able to do what he has to do to be successful.

I didn’t like the hire - hell 99% of the college football universe didn’t like the hire. That doesn’t mean I haven’t been at the games the last 3 years hoping like hell to be wrong. It’s just that at this point, given what we have seen, I don’t think he has really changed from what he was at Florida. Sure, against Bama or clemson he will open up the offense because anyone can see it’s the only prayer we have of an upset. But then there’s the game at UF last year where he got a lead, then shut it down just in time to squander a lead and turn a comfortable win into a loss.

He just can’t help himself. He’s too damn conservative. He wants to win his way, historical results be damned. The only way I see to salvage it is to go out and hire the best offensive and defensive coordinators we can find, give them huge multi year deals, and tell Muschamp if he wants to keep his job he is the recruiting coordinator and has no input on offense at all. I just don’t think that’s what will happen so I’m ready to move on.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33369 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 5:33 pm to
But fans done hire and fire coaches. Now, if there is a massive lack of support that can have an effect but then there is no guarantee they’ll hire a guy you like the next time anyway. It’s a vicious cycle.

To me, it’s better to support the program good times and bad and let the AD do their job
Posted by IStillMissDanny
S TX
Member since Aug 2016
2151 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 5:33 pm to
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(One of the) Hardest schedule(s) in the Nation this year.

We all knew it was going to be bad.




True, but trading Alabama for LSU next year isn't going to change anything.
Y'all would be a lot happier if the Spurrier miracle had never happened; it's hard to accept mediocrity when you've tasted a little success.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 5:36 pm to
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Y'all would be a lot happier if the Spurrier miracle had never happened; it's hard to accept mediocrity when you've tasted a little success.

This is part

What also adds to it is our rival has 2 titles (and we haven’t beaten Clemson) and Muschamp just doesn’t beat ranked teams

Even in our 7-6 years with spurrier before the East title he’d have a big upset thrown in there and/or beat our rival.

Especially a year where they were playing for the ACC Title
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 5:37 pm
Posted by Ghost of Barnwell
central alabama
Member since Dec 2013
1827 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 5:42 pm to
So all of the shine and glitter has worn off that turd.........
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
6136 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 5:43 pm to
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..that is as dumb as you can get. The most important hire..and you gamble on it....stupid, stupid, stupid

I’m sure he’s a perfectly fine OC. The problem is Muschamp. Just like it was with Weiss, Pease, and Roper. Muschamp doesn’t let them do there job.
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 5:45 pm
Posted by jumpstart
Member since Jun 2018
919 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 6:45 pm to
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Hypothetically if your Aunt Jean had balls she'd be your Uncle John. But that's not going to happen, now is it Sunbeam. Be honest. You know better, I know you do. I don't get this self destructive stuff from so many of our fans when our coaches and players are out there busting their asses to turn this thing around. Sheeeesh, y'all never would have survived some of the old days. Frickin people wanted to fire SPURrier after his fourth AND fifth years for that matter.
Spurrier didn't have the amenities that Muschamp has and Muschamp doesn't have the successful track record that Spurrier had...so...apples and oranges. I wasn't a big fan of the hire but I thought it could work out. Then came the first year of putting square pegs in round holes offense. It got no better the next year.....and then he tried to solve the problem by promoting a guy who had never been an OC...wow. I thought it was a gamble when he did it....and nothing has happened to change my mind since. Muschamp, unlike Spurrier can't see that his solutions are making things worse and change with the times.He has the old school approach to coaching...conservative.... I hope the guy can get it together but he has to realize that what he is doing now is not working. I am not sure he can see that.
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 6:50 pm
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
7284 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 7:22 pm to
Muschamp sucks, yes. But the problem is that the backbone, the strength of the team and the reason why you hire the guy, isn't working out.

The defense is soft. The team has no intensity. The team is small and overall untalented. There is no identity, to any part of this team. Muschamp is a crappy DC, and he's a worse HC.
Posted by cyclingout
God's country, SC
Member since Apr 2019
2238 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 8:00 pm to
Wrong board
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
136710 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 8:04 pm to
No coach resigns when there is buyout money to be had.
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 8:27 pm to
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cyclingout


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Wrong board


Irony.
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