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re: How serious is this Ole Miss "resurgence"?
Posted on 1/26/09 at 10:01 pm to uofm67
Posted on 1/26/09 at 10:01 pm to uofm67
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don't forget who you lose
We're bringing back a ton more than we lost this year, and already have capable replacements for most of our seniors.
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they have never been to Atlanta
Is this the only thing you can mention today? Every freaking post by you is this crap. If I were you I'd spend alot more time worrying about my program that might just be going down the crapper then worrying who has been to Atlanta. You should have kept the coach you stole from us instead of hiring the Big 12 juggernaut that you did.
Posted on 1/26/09 at 10:04 pm to DeuceisLoose
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You should have kept the coach you stole from us instead of hiring the Big 12 juggernaut that you did.
Posted on 1/26/09 at 10:07 pm to mmjones87
If you still don't believe me that O is not as good of a recruiter as it seems check out JPLSU1981's post on the Ole Miss recruiting class is shaping up or whatever. It was since 04. Ole Miss 29 Arky 27
Posted on 1/26/09 at 10:19 pm to uofm67
Ole Miss's successful season last year was largely based on two wins - beating LSU in Baton Rouge and Texas Tech in the Cotton Bowl. Yes, I know they beat Florida, but I chalk that game up as a prototypical upset game where Ole Miss got big plays and a lot of breaks to catch a napping Florida team.
If you assume my first statement is correct, then the success of their season hinged on the game in Baton Rouge, because if they had lost that game, they never would have gotten the chance to play Texas Tech. A game they won handily. Showed they were the better team that night. But let's consider for a moment the team that LSU put on the field that night. This was a team that was in disarray - a heartbroken team. For the entire year, LSU had aimed for the national championship or at least a BCS game. After the crushing defeat to Alabama, both goals were off the table, and everything else paled in comparison. LSU was uninspired, lethargic, and then was forced to play the second half with an untested true freshman at quarterback.
My point is that the LSU team that Ole Miss beat was already half-beaten when the ball was kicked off.
Now, I would further state that LSU has gone a long way towards solving the problems that ailed them on that night, which will spell trouble for Ole Miss the next time these two teams face each other.
I used this comparison in the Arkansas Football thread, but I think it is appropriate here. Imagine that you are standing next to a giant oak tree, but it is the only tree in a five-acre field. If you are standing close enough to it, you could be tricked. My theory is that the Ole Miss defeat of LSU last season is just this. A lone tree in the middle of a great plain.
But the Ole Miss fans think that the tree is not just a tree. It is one of many trees in a vast forest. It points us to the fact that there is a large gathering of many of the same trees that is Ole Miss football.
But I think it's just a lonely tree.
Guess we'll have to see next year.
If you assume my first statement is correct, then the success of their season hinged on the game in Baton Rouge, because if they had lost that game, they never would have gotten the chance to play Texas Tech. A game they won handily. Showed they were the better team that night. But let's consider for a moment the team that LSU put on the field that night. This was a team that was in disarray - a heartbroken team. For the entire year, LSU had aimed for the national championship or at least a BCS game. After the crushing defeat to Alabama, both goals were off the table, and everything else paled in comparison. LSU was uninspired, lethargic, and then was forced to play the second half with an untested true freshman at quarterback.
My point is that the LSU team that Ole Miss beat was already half-beaten when the ball was kicked off.
Now, I would further state that LSU has gone a long way towards solving the problems that ailed them on that night, which will spell trouble for Ole Miss the next time these two teams face each other.
I used this comparison in the Arkansas Football thread, but I think it is appropriate here. Imagine that you are standing next to a giant oak tree, but it is the only tree in a five-acre field. If you are standing close enough to it, you could be tricked. My theory is that the Ole Miss defeat of LSU last season is just this. A lone tree in the middle of a great plain.
But the Ole Miss fans think that the tree is not just a tree. It is one of many trees in a vast forest. It points us to the fact that there is a large gathering of many of the same trees that is Ole Miss football.
But I think it's just a lonely tree.
Guess we'll have to see next year.
Posted on 1/26/09 at 10:45 pm to Tiger Phil
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Yes, I know they beat Florida, but I chalk that game up as a prototypical upset game where Ole Miss got big plays and a lot of breaks to catch a napping Florida team.
Did you actually watch the game, or just hear about it? Florida came to play against us. We were the more physical team that day, and we had a three point advantage in points off turnovers (which we forced).
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Imagine that you are standing next to a giant oak tree, but it is the only tree in a five-acre field. If you are standing close enough to it, you could be tricked. My theory is that the Ole Miss defeat of LSU last season is just this. A lone tree in the middle of a great plain.
Poetic gibberish. Imagine that Ole Miss embarrassed you on your home field, but it was because your team was already "half-beaten". What does that say about your players and your coach? Maybe you should stop looking so much for that fifth star, and seeing if the recruit has any heart in his chest.
Posted on 1/26/09 at 10:59 pm to DeuceisLoose
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If you assume my first statement is correct, then the success of their season hinged on the game in Baton Rouge, because if they had lost that game, they never would have gotten the chance to play Texas Tech. A game they won handily. Showed they were the better team that night. But let's consider for a moment the team that LSU put on the field that night. This was a team that was in disarray - a heartbroken team. For the entire year, LSU had aimed for the national championship or at least a BCS game. After the crushing defeat to Alabama, both goals were off the table, and everything else paled in comparison. LSU was uninspired, lethargic, and then was forced to play the second half with an untested true freshman at quarterback.
So Les Miles couldn't coach his team up enough to come play an SEC opponent and get themselves into the Cotton Bowl? Is that also your excuse for Arkansas?
Posted on 1/27/09 at 4:07 am to Cornholio
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Its not that serious. They'll shite and fall back in it next year.
Those were your exact words at the beginning of this year.
Posted on 1/27/09 at 5:41 am to DBG
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houston nutt is a quick fix coach
Say what you want about the "Nutt," but he OWNS Les Miles.
Posted on 1/27/09 at 5:43 am to Tiger Phil
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A lone tree in the middle of a great plain.
Sounds an awful like the LSU football program in the state of Louisiana.
Posted on 1/27/09 at 7:06 am to DeuceisLoose
duesisloose--I agree with him. ole miss has proven itself by beating fla at fla, lsu at lsu, tt in texas---maybe the best sec team by the end of the season -- however the question remains, can they do it again. i believe so
Posted on 1/27/09 at 7:15 am to mmjones87
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So Les Miles couldn't coach his team up enough to come play an SEC opponent and get themselves into the Cotton Bowl? Is that also your excuse for Arkansas?
it was pretty obvious to anyone that watched all of the games that the team quit after the alabama game. they let troy build up a 30 point lead, and while they did pull that win out they lost the following 2 games in a pretty pathetic fashion. i know you ole miss fans don't like to hear it because you feel it downplays your win but it's the truth. teams quit from time to time, it happened to bama in 07. the only difference is they actually lost to their cupcake team
Posted on 1/27/09 at 7:26 am to TulaneTigerFan
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you feel it downplays your win but it's the truth. teams quit from time to time
Didn't really matter to me. After the Florida and Georgia games, I knew LSU was not a good team when we played them (I still enjoyed the victory...don't get me wrong). However, the fact the players quit to end the year would concern me if I was a Tiger fan. What happens next year if Florida puts it on them? Do they roll over again, or was this just a bump in the road? We shall see.
Posted on 1/27/09 at 7:28 am to DeuceisLoose
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Didn't really matter to me. After the Florida and Georgia games, I knew LSU was not a good team when we played them (I still enjoyed the victory...don't get me wrong). However, the fact the players quit to end the year would concern me if I was a Tiger fan. What happens next year if Florida puts it on them? Do they roll over again, or was this just a bump in the road? We shall see.
Good post.
Posted on 1/27/09 at 7:35 am to TideSaint
Houston Nutt is a great game day/underdog coach. The big wins are always balanced with losing games he should have won.
Posted on 1/27/09 at 8:31 am to wolfgang
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however the question remains, can they do it again
I agree... We won 10 games in '03, but did nothing to keep out momentum. We are more prepared this time around to put together back-to-back solid seasons.
Maybe resurgence isn't the right word, but we are on our way to being a much more consistent player in the SEC.
Posted on 1/27/09 at 8:40 am to Tiger Phil
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But let's consider for a moment the team that LSU put on the field that night. This was a team that was in disarray - a heartbroken team. For the entire year, LSU had aimed for the national championship or at least a BCS game. After the crushing defeat to Alabama, both goals were off the table, and everything else paled in comparison. LSU was uninspired, lethargic, and then was forced to play the second half with an untested true freshman at quarterback.
Getting a mudhole stomped in your arse in Death Valley and the best you can come up with is they must have been uninspired? Give me a break dude. They didn't look too uninspired when they were slaughtering GT. So I guess you can say the past 3 years for Ole Miss are just a pass then because that was an "UNINSPIRED" football team.
Posted on 1/27/09 at 8:43 am to Billy Mays
Ole Miss is ranked 9th in the SEC this year in recruiting 45th nationally! How is that "getting better"? Face it Ole Miss better win this year because after that it will be 5-7 to 7-5 year in year out for Ole Miss.
Posted on 1/27/09 at 8:55 am to KLSU
You don't have to remind any OM fan about recruiting bud. We lived, breathed, and shite it for 3 years with Orgeron. Recruiting is not everything as we learned the hard way. We had 3 good years of it and that equaled a whopping 10 wins. LSU recruits excellent every year and supposedly Nutt just can't, but yet his teams have beaten you twice at home.
Posted on 1/27/09 at 9:12 am to MadRebel
Many LSU fans said Troy was the turning point because they got together and came back. Ya'll were saying that LSU has come together and will destroy Ole Miss. After Ole Miss beat you, you guys were back to step one and now your saying how uninspired they were.
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