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re: Herbstreit Tracking Bama's Decline
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:44 pm to jangalang
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:44 pm to jangalang
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Does 2nd, and 72nd mean anything to you?
Not if you understand a senior 3 star is probably often better than a freshman 5 star, a covid senior even more so. Especially if they fit your scheme.
I think it also highlights that a player who is ready to put in the work all season with less talent is likely more valuable than a talented player making money and not putting in the work. I talk all the time about the difference between a talented player and an elite player. Or that Alabama would in the past have 3 stars that could hang in the NFL for a short period of time just based on the work they had put in.
That is what is missing from the NIL era, development and the will to get better, and that is why Saban retired.
So I think it's honestly kind of awesome what Indiana is doing. They look old school tough because they are old school tough.
What else is it supposed to mean?
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 4:47 pm
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:50 pm to 3down10
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Not if you understand a covid senior 3 star is probably often better than a freshman 5 star. Especially if they fit your scheme.
Yall are more experienced than freshman level. Yall returned 14 starters between O and D
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I think it also highlights that a player who is ready to put in the work all season with less talent is likely more valuable than a talented player making money and not putting in the work.
This is culture. This is coaching. Just admit this season falls on uour coaching.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:55 pm to jangalang
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Yall are more experienced than freshman level. Yall returned 14 starters between OL and DL.
You mean a bunch of people who don't fit the scheme. Go ahead and look at who our best players were - lower ranking recruits from Washington.
Cuevas, TE - wasn't even rated out of HS, rated 3 star as a transfer.
Brailsford, Center - 3 star out of HS, 4 star as a transfer.
Bernard - 4 star HS and transfer.
And the QB who had the scoring drive yesterday is 4 star.
All those guys came from Washington, and despite being lower ranked they were our better players because they fit scheme.
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This is culture. This is coaching. Just admit this season falls on uour coaching.
You're an idiot.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:59 pm to 3down10
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You mean a bunch of people who don't fit the scheme. Go ahead and look at who our best players were - lower ranking recruits from Washington. Cuevas, TE - wasn't even rated out of HS, rated 3 star as a transfer. Brailsford, Center - 3 star out of HS, 4 star as a transfer. Bernard - 4 star HS and transfer. And the QB who had the scoring drive yesterday is 4 star. All those guys came from Washington, and despite being lower ranked they were our better players because they fit scheme.
Coaches cannot add at a higher clip than 3 or 4 players in two cycles? Like I tell my 10U basketball team if you dont know what you are doing copy someone that does. Cignetti knows how to draw players that fit.
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You're an idiot.
Now, I know I got you.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:01 pm to jangalang
quote:Which is why we fired Kelly.
This is culture. This is coaching.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:02 pm to jangalang
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Just admit this season falls on uour coaching
This season can be laid directly at the feet of the coaches. That’s probably not quite as bad as thing as you seem to think it is.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:03 pm to jangalang
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Coaches cannot add at a higher clip than 3 or 4 players in two cycles? Like I tell my 10U basketball team if you dont know what you are doing copy someone that does. Cignetti knows how to draw players that fit.
We had other transfers too, those were just lower rated ones that followed him.
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Now, I know I got you.
Sorry your life is so shitty that this is a highlight for you.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:05 pm to NWLA_Bama
quote:He gets it.
Sorry Bama brethren, he inherited more talent than what was on the Indiana team that drummed us 38-3 and thats not even debatable. His coaching and team preparation is average at best. Cignetti LITERALLY took a team not even half the talent and is one game away from a NC. Lack of talent is a BS excuse for the real problem
Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:05 pm to 3down10
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The difference is, Alabama was the #9 team losing to the #1 team, not the #2 team losing to the #10 team.
Did you forget OSU lost 13-10 to Indiana in a game that went to final 2 mins? ... Also in Indiana.
Face it, Bama is old news.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:06 pm to Crimson K
Roster management is just one of the many aspects of coaching.
I thought it was unfair that the announcers talked like Cignetti was too smart to be out coached by Deboer, but it was clear they weren't even in the same zip code.
I thought it was unfair that the announcers talked like Cignetti was too smart to be out coached by Deboer, but it was clear they weren't even in the same zip code.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:08 pm to nola tiger lsu
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Did you forget OSU lost 13-10 to Indiana in a game that went to final 2 mins? ... Also in Indiana.
Face it, Bama is old news.
Well, to start they played in the Big10 championship game, and Ohio St was ranked #2 after that game, not #9 or #10.
Alabama was the underdog, Ohio St was expected to win by more than a TD against Miami.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:08 pm to 3down10
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We had other transfers too, those were just lower rated ones that followed him.
Well that's a start...But if yall have players that dont fit I dont see why your coach keeps them around. That's a waste of resources.
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Sorry your life is so shitty that this is a highlight for you.
Will truly go down into the anals of time.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:17 pm to jangalang
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Well that's a start...But if yall have players that dont fit I dont see why your coach keeps them around. That's a waste of resources.
He's only had a single recruiting class that has seen the field. But I hope he does grab some good seniors from the portal.
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Will truly go down into the anals of time.
Hate to burst your bubble but I am the easiest person on this forum to troll because I straight up do not give a shite why you say stupid things.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:22 pm to 3down10
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He's only had a single recruiting class that has seen the field. But I hope he does grab some good seniors from the portal.
We are including transfers so I think you are lying. Isiah Horton did not come in with Bernard.
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because I straight up do not give a shite why you say stupid things.
Same here pal
Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:25 pm to jangalang
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We are including transfers so I think you are lying. Isiah Horton did not come in with Bernard.
He's been at Alabama 2 years. The first class was already signed by Saban, except for all the transfers that left, which was like 30. DeBoer had time to get incoming transfers only and that is where the Washington transfers I mentioned came from.
Horton came in from last years class.
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Same here pal
Eventually I'll just put you in the same category as willy and ignore you though.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:28 pm to 3down10
So Deboer had plenty of opportunity..
Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:29 pm to 3down10
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All those guys came from Washington, and despite being lower ranked they were our better players because they fit scheme.
I do wonder about that. And I saw it again yesterday. A lot of "gap shooting" by Indiana with slow line play by 'Bama. That Proctor kid ? He's got zero chance at anything in the NFL. He's too slow.
But that scheme 'Bama runs gave him no chance either. I do wonder, I've said it on other threads. Has Cignetti been the first guy to rewind the clock ? Make line play simpler on both sides ? Because it sure looks like hat-on-hat on his O-Line ... no zone scheme ... and Old School "read all you want while we're all in the backfield" to me.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:29 pm to jangalang
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So Deboer had plenty of opportunity..
Yep, if the coach can't get it done in 1.5 years, he outta just give up.
And after 6 in a row, maybe Auburn should just give up.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:32 pm to 3down10
quote:Fine by me.
Yep, if the coach can't get it done in 1.5 years, he outta just give up.
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This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:36 pm to 3down10
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Yep, if the coach can't get it done in 1.5 years, he outta just give up.
We can't have all this rational talk here. Enough of that.
I do suspect that the Cignetti Secret Sauce is just rolling the clock back a bit. Hell - at this rate maybe we'll see a fullback. Maybe Offset I.
And it makes sense to me at least. Instead of this idea of one play call that is perfect in all situations ? Just run a play hard and see what happens.
A lot of College Football to me seems like all my time in the Automotive Industry. Just more and more complication and a great big fan dance to act like The Manager is always right. No matter the results.
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