re: Auburn Shooting Thread (Updated 6-12) Suspect in Custody

I was choked up when they showed the press conference and the pictures of the people who died. If someone is insecure enough, or whatever he is, to have to take his piece to a party to ensure his "respect", manliness, or whatever, and have it escalate to the point that he shoots six people, I have no patience for that.

Even if it was about a girl, it wasn't. A girl might have triggered the anger, but he already had it in him to react the way he did and to use that gun. Or else he wouldn't have used it. And if someone broke a bottle on his head, he could have left. He could have taken the guy outside. He could have done a lot of things. There is a reason more people don't die at parties over girls. Even if they have bottles broken on their heads.

Granted, I don't know what happened, and when the facts come out, I'm sure it'll make more sense, and we might even find a legitimate reason that he took a gun and killed everyone. I'll be the first to say I was wrong. That said, I'm not holding my breath.

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Just say what you really mean, for those who can't read between the lines.

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I love it when you snark.

Let me jump in real quick before everyone goes full tard. A chaotic scene = conflicting stories. People may have been struck by through and through rounds, people may have been individually targeted..we don't know, and won't know for a while.

As far as the charges being indictive of actions, be careful with that. They are gonna swear out the highest, and then sort it out.

Any talk of affirmative defenses are premature. Who knows what the scene will bear out?

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So now we are getting reports that the shooters fired immediately after being hit by bottles as well as reports that they came back to the scene. We are also getting reports that a football players hit him with a bottle as well as that it was not a football player. This story has so many questions left that none of us can judge anyone. All we can do is pray for the families and hope that justice prevails.

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He shot six people. It's a crime. No matter what comes out, I have no sympathy for a PoS who shoots six people unless you can prove all six were some deadly threat to this guy.

I am a huge proponent of self defense, and a huge proponent of street justice but don't be a pussy about it.

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Just say what you really mean, for those who can't read between the lines.

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too cryptic?

this thread has officially gone full tard

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Ummmmmm, what would you consider a legit reason to kill 3 people? Cause I don't know of any unless they had guns trying to kill him or a family member of his.

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Well, as people have said, it doesn't take much for a round to go off, or what chaos brings. I certainly have preconceived biases and judgments, but I've seen enough scenarios that have presented as one thing but turn out to be something completely different. Until everything comes out, I'm uncomfortable talking in absolutes.

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HE SHOT SIX PEOPLE. Shooting other bystanders NOT involved in the fight can never, in any way, be construed as "self defense".

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Legally, sure it can. It all depends how many people were hitting him, in what direction he was firing the gun, and how imminent the danger was to him. It's an unfortunate truth but you can have innocent bystanders killed as well as have a valid claim of self defense.

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Monticello

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If your family member was shot and killed after hitting a guy with a beer bottle, would you be OK with that because according to you it falls under self defense?

I would not want to circumvent the due process of law even if my family member was a victim.