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re: Alabama is Georgia's daddy..
Posted on 2/10/20 at 4:06 pm to GeauxTigers247
Posted on 2/10/20 at 4:06 pm to GeauxTigers247
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We’ve already covered this LSU is 18-13-1 all time against UGA, therefore owns UGA.
Well, that's wrong. Owned implies that the other team cannot beat you. I have already shown that in the last 10 game we are dead even and in the last 15 games we are one game apart. That clearly is not owned.
Let me put it this way....
Do you agree that Alabama owns LSU?
Do you agree that Alabama has a better program than LSU?
quote:Well, that certainly offends me.
I’m offended that you think I’m offended by posts on an Internet forum.
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 4:09 pm to GeauxTigers247
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We’ve already covered this LSU is 18-13-1 all time against UGA, therefore owns UGA.
Seems odd since you made the following statement just a few posts above:
I’m not arguing that LSU is UGAs daddy.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 4:15 pm to DawgsLife
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I’m not arguing that LSU is UGAs daddy.
Yea. I didn’t say Daddy. I said “owns”. Which means LSU “owns” the record against UGA. Which is true isn’t it?
Posted on 2/10/20 at 4:21 pm to DawgsLife
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Do you agree that Alabama owns LSU?
Without a doubt. As much as it pains me to say.
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Do you agree that Alabama has a better program than LSU?
Also yes.
But what does Bama and LSU have to do with UGA and LSU. You can’t use Bama’s success against LSU to bolster UGAs lack of success against LSU.
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I have already shown that in the last 10 game we are dead even and in the last 15 games we are one game apart.
You also said that you think ALL TIME RECORD and the MOST RECENT GAME should be the only thing taken into account. Not the last 10,15 or 27.276 games.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 6:09 am to GeauxTigers247
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Yea. I didn’t say Daddy. I said “owns”. Which means LSU “owns” the record against UGA.
No. Mobody uses it in that context. When they say owns it typically means the other team can't win but once every blue moon. As in:
"Alabama owns LSU."
Here. let Webster helo you out:
own
[on]
VERB
owns (third person present)
US
informal
utterly defeat (an opponent or rival); completely get the better of.
It would be correct to say "LSU owned Georgia the past two years."
It would NOT be correct to say:
"LSU owns Georgia."
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:33 am to DawgsLife
Does Alabama own UGA? They are 40-25-4 vs UGA all time and they’re currently on a 5 game winning streak against UGA as well. Does that meet the prerequisite of “owning” UGA?
If holding a 5 game lead on a head to head all time record or 2 consecutive blow out wins isn’t enough to own a team the what metric needs to be met for one team to “own” or be the “daddy” of another team?
If holding a 5 game lead on a head to head all time record or 2 consecutive blow out wins isn’t enough to own a team the what metric needs to be met for one team to “own” or be the “daddy” of another team?
Posted on 2/11/20 at 11:12 am to GeauxTigers247
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If holding a 5 game lead on a head to head all time record or 2 consecutive blow out wins isn’t enough to own a team the what metric needs to be met for one team to “own” or be the “daddy” of another team?
You owned us the last two years, period. In no other context does LSU "own" Georgia. Not if you go out 10 years. not if you go out 15 years. not if you go out 20 years. Not if you go out 200 years.
It would be correct to say Alabama owns LSU in the last 10 years, but it would not be correct to say Alabama owns LSU the last 20 years.
It would be correct to say LSU owned Alabama from 2000-2011.
It would also be correct to say Alabama owns LSU all time.
I am shocked that somebody thinks a small margin in wins/losses constitutes "owning" them.
You understand. You just don't want to admit it. It is not my problem if you bought into a false narrative.
ETA
But to answer your question above? yes. Alabama does own Georgia. Hopefully we will get it turned around and change that.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 11:14 am
Posted on 2/11/20 at 11:14 am to GeauxTigers247
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If holding a 5 game lead on a head to head all time record or 2 consecutive blow out wins isn’t enough to own a team the what metric needs to be met for one team to “own” or be the “daddy” of another team?
A 5 game lead over 100 years time frame is not owning anything.
It can't get any clearer. if you cannot understand this, then I would guess you never finished High School, much less college.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 11:16 am
Posted on 2/11/20 at 12:26 pm to DawgsLife
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It can't get any clearer.
You’ve been inconsistent in your reasoning this entire conversation. And I’m educated enough to understand everything you’ve said. First it’s “ well over 10 years this or over 15 years it’s that. Then it’s “Personally it should be all time record or most recent game”. Make up your mind.
Also, the fact that you continue to use Bama’s success against LSU really shows your insecurities in your own program. UGA’s accomplishments can’t stand alone in this argument, so you have to continue to rely on a team that has had success against LSU as though it has any bearing on LSU vs UGA.
So, LSU has a 5 game all time advantage. That’s not enough to “own” UGA, but LSU is better. Ok got it.
LSU beat UGA 37-10 in the most recent game. That margin of victory is enough to constitute LSU owning UGA.
Therefore LSU currently owns UGA, but overall does not own UGA.
Is this your stance?
Posted on 2/11/20 at 2:11 pm to GeauxTigers247
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You’ve been inconsistent in your reasoning this entire conversation.
No I haven't. You are just incapable of following a reasoned and logical thought process. Then you want to apply two different conversations and apply everything to fit you narrative. That's not my fault. that's yours.
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First it’s “ well over 10 years this or over 15 years it’s that.
I never said "it's over 10 years this or 15 years that."
I said that the record of UGA and LSU over a 10 year period is nearly even and the record over a 15 year period is almost even. One game difference. Twisting my words a bit?
quote:And I believe that. but in reference to a team owning another team or not, it is important to compare recent history. I have already said that LSU owned Georgia the last two years. But overall history, LSU does not own Georgia. I even had to give you the definition of owned, yet you apparently decided to ignore that. Why? because it did not fit your narrative. if you don't like it, argue with Webster, not me.
Then it’s “Personally it should be all time record or most recent game”. Make up your mind.
quote:I didn't do that, either. I merely used Alabama as an example of owning a team. And Alabama certainly is a good example of one team owning another. I even admitted that Alabama owns Georgia in every sense of the wrod. You, on the other hand can say LSU owns Georgia but cannot admit that Alabama owns LSU even though Alabama has had a lot more success against LSU than LSU has against Georgia. You are a hypocrite.
Also, the fact that you continue to use Bama’s success against LSU really shows your insecurities
quote:Which is exactly what I have been saying the whole time. I'm glad you finally understand.
So, LSU has a 5 game all time advantage. That’s not enough to “own” UGA, but LSU is better. Ok got it.
a 5 game advantage over a 90 year period is a close series.
quote:Correct. Over the last two meetings LSU has owned Georgia. But in the overall scheme of things, the series is pretty even.
Therefore LSU currently owns UGA, but overall does not own UGA.
quote:Eh. Pretty much.
Is this your stance?
Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:30 pm to DawgsLife
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You, on the other hand can say LSU owns Georgia but cannot admit that Alabama owns LSU even though Alabama has had a lot more success against LSU than LSU has against Georgia. You are a hypocrite.
Look at the previous posts. I said Alabama without a doubt owns LSU. So, No. I am not a hypocrite. You just can’t read.
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You are just incapable of following a reasoned and logical thought process.
I think I can keep up with you Einstein. We’re talking about college football not quantum mechanics.
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a 5 game advantage over a 90 year period is a close series.
Just to clarify, there have only been 32 games over those 90 years.
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Correct. Over the last two meetings LSU has owned Georgia. But in the overall scheme of things, the series is pretty even.
Ok. Good talk.
The final verdict: LSU has won 56% of the time that they have played UGA and have beat UGA handedly 2 years in a row. This makes them better than UGA but only partial owners.
Sounds like political way of saying LSU is UGA’s daddy.
And so we’ve come full circle.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:43 pm to GeauxTigers247
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Look at the previous posts. I said Alabama without a doubt owns LSU. So, No. I am not a hypocrite. You just can’t read.
I must have missed it. My apologies. It seems neither of us will get an "A" in reading in this thread.
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I think I can keep up with you Einstein.
Oh, I very seriously doubt that.
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Just to clarify, there have only been 32 games over those 90 years.
Okay. So? Do you seriously want to argue that LSU has absolutely dominated those games?
LSU dominated from 1928 until 1945. Since that time? Practically even. quote:
Ok. Good talk.
The final verdict: LSU has won 56% of the time that they have played UGA and have beat UGA handedly 2 years in a row. This makes them better than UGA but only partial owners.
We can agree on that. LSU had a special team this past year, no doubt. A lot of people feel like LSU will fall next year because of all the talent they lost. I disagree. Three teams seem to reload in the SEC. Alabama. LSU. and Georgia.
All three recruit very well. It will be hard to repeat next year for LSU. But it is hard to repeat in the SEC for anybody.
quote:Except that statement would be wrong.
Sounds like political way of saying LSU is UGA’s daddy.
Never heard "political" used in this way. Did you mean "tactful"?
Posted on 2/11/20 at 4:00 pm to DawgsLife
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Oh, I very seriously doubt that.
Ah, The “I’m intellectually superior to you” act.
Classic.
I’m sure that’s a real boost for your self confidence.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 2/12/20 at 6:28 am to GeauxTigers247
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Ah, The “I’m intellectually superior to you” act.
Classic.
Well, neither of us know for sure, now do we? But I was saying that you were not intellectually superior to me, was I not?
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I’m sure that’s a real boost for your self confidence.
ETA
Here is your quote.
I think I can keep up with you Einstein.
I am guessing you were using "Einstein" as sarcasm? So, I find it odd that you would belittle my intelligence, then turn around and accuse me of saying I was superior in intelligence.
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 6:33 am
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