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re: Adam Schefter reporting Carolina Panthers.....
Posted on 3/23/11 at 11:15 am to HogKing111
Posted on 3/23/11 at 11:15 am to HogKing111
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Perception v Reality, my friend. Your perception of Mallett, influenced by your bias, sees what it wants to. You latch on to all the negative aspects of Mallett's game, you put too much stock into alleged off the field issues, and you give to much credit to the "experts" and their mock drafts (especially the ones that line up with your pre-existing bias).
you Arky fans are the only ones saying Mallett is worth a 1st rounder.
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Reality is, Mallett is in fact a 1st round QB.
no it isn't. He has way too many issues to be a 1st rounder.
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Rivera said himself, 3 days ago, that Carolina is looking at 8 players for their first pick. 3 of those players are QB's, and Mallett is one of those QB's. I don't know how it could be any clear or anymore straight from the horses mouth. You have a serious case of denial.
and you take everything at face value which is an issue.
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It's okay to admit you were wrong on this one.
if you really think a team would take Mallett with a top 10 pick idk what to tell you. It's just not going to happen.
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Posted on 3/23/11 at 11:17 am to adammwilson
you're not going to change my opinion and I'm not going to change yours. I've shown you quotes from NFL scouts and personnel and you still don't believe me. You can't be convinced and I'm tired of trying. Enjoy draft day.
Posted on 3/23/11 at 11:22 am to adammwilson
A little preview for you... 
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:06 pm to adammwilson
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have you ever followed the draft before? Coaches lie all the time about players. Why would they take a guy #1 overall who is widely seen as a 2nd round player
So you are going to take the word over reporters and journalists who have no idea what the hell they are talking about, but have a forum to spew their idiocy because stupid people like to hear it over the coach of the team with said pick?
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Peter King is arguably the most respected football writer in the country.
If you want to know who has the best apple turnover in Boston or what sports-related sob story is going on, then yeah sure. But no one who knows anything about sports respects the guy.
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other than Adam Schefter has the best sources around.
Schefter is usually only reliable now with widely known facts. He hardly ever breaks secret news. He has guessed a couple of times before news broke, but he's nothing groundbreaking. He was pretty money with NFL Network, but that comes with the territory.
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:08 pm to HogKing111
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Reality is, Mallett is in fact a 1st round QB.
He also has the most potential of any quarterback in this draft as well.
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It's okay to admit you were wrong on this one.
Adamm admit he was wrong on something football-related? You really are new here man
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:12 pm to adammwilson
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you Arky fans are the only ones saying Mallett is worth a 1st rounder.
Because I'm an Arkansas fan, right?
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no it isn't. He has way too many issues to be a 1st rounder.
What issues? He can't run fast? Neither can any of the top 5 quarterbacks in the NFL. So what?
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and you take everything at face value which is an issue.
Did you ever think that NFL scouts are leaking false information about Mallett in order to create the perception that his stock is low so that they can draft him later than usual?
I'm going to go out and say that no you didn't think outside of the box because as usual you formulated an back asswards opinion and stuck by it even though it is is foolishly naive at best.
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if you really think a team would take Mallett with a top 10 pick idk what to tell you. It's just not going to happen.
If he is drafted in the Top 10, will you write a big apologetic goodbye letter and leave the board?
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:13 pm to GamecockAlum
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So you are going to take the word over reporters and journalists who have no idea what the hell they are talking about, but have a forum to spew their idiocy because stupid people like to hear it over the coach of the team with said pick?
plenty of them talk to scouts and GM's. Where are your sources? You have yet to post one single link.
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But no one who knows anything about sports respects the guy.
I couldn't disagree more. The guys Monday morning qb column gets more readers than any single football column in the country and he has many many many sources and is friends with the majority of owners/ gm's/ players.
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Schefter is usually only reliable now with widely known facts. He hardly ever breaks secret news. He has guessed a couple of times before news broke, but he's nothing groundbreaking. He was pretty money with NFL Network, but that comes with the territory.
he has the most credible sources.
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:13 pm to adammwilson
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I've shown you quotes from NFL scouts and personnel
He linked up a quote directly from the head coach of the team with the first pick in the draft.
You link up random mock draft sites and journalists who don't know shite more than the average joe. A press pass doesn't mean you know shite about the game at all.
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:15 pm to GamecockAlum
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He also has the most potential of any quarterback in this draft as well.
that's arguable. I think most would agree that Cam Newton. With his blend of athletic skills and his arm.
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Adamm admit he was wrong on something football-related? You really are new here man
hey when either of you two prove me wrong I'll gladly admit it. All you two have been posting is your own opinions. I've been posting mine and link after link after link of respected writers/draftniks/ scouts/ etc.. of people saying he won't be drafted in the top 20.
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:19 pm to GamecockAlum
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Because I'm an Arkansas fan, right?
no you're just an idiot. Everyone on the board knows that.
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What issues? He can't run fast? Neither can any of the top 5 quarterbacks in the NFL. So what?
geez do we have to go through the same thing every time? We've talked about this before.
and about the top 5 qb's in the nfl not running fast I'd disagree.
Rodgers and Roethlisberger both run pretty well.
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Did you ever think that NFL scouts are leaking false information about Mallett in order to create the perception that his stock is low so that they can draft him later than usual?
yes but this much from this many different sources it's very doubtful.
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If he is drafted in the Top 10, will you write a big apologetic goodbye letter and leave the board?
yes
and when he isn't will you do the same?
This post was edited on 3/23/11 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:22 pm to GamecockAlum
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He linked up a quote directly from the head coach of the team with the first pick in the draft.
yes and if you think the coach was serious Idk what to tell you.
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You link up random mock draft sites and journalists who don't know shite more than the average joe. A press pass doesn't mean you know shite about the game at all.
true but they talk to people who know about the game and draft. I linked credible mock draft sites I also linked credible journalists it's something you've failed to do. They have sources inside team organizations/.
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:23 pm to adammwilson
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plenty of them talk to scouts and GM's. Where are your sources? You have yet to post one single link.
So you are going to trust people who are year and year out wrong about the draft over someone who as far as you know hasn't been wrong yet about it?
Sources/Links? I don't need no stinking sources/links!
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The guys Monday morning qb column gets more readers than any single football column in the country
So? I read his article too. I just don't respect or care about his opinion at all because he his misses 95% of the time. Hell he said that Shonn Greene would be a 1,400 yard back this season (2010). Did not happen. The guy is an alright writer, but his sports-related stuff is shite.
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:24 pm to adammwilson
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hey when either of you two prove me wrong I'll gladly admit it.
Really kid? You said Mallett has no chance of being the number one pick. The head coach of the Panthers - the team with the number one pick - has said they are looking at him for the pick. That alone proves you are wrong.
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:25 pm to GamecockAlum
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So you are going to trust people who are year and year out wrong about the draft over someone who as far as you know hasn't been wrong yet about it?
what do you mean? I'm not talking about Kiper/ Mcshay here. I never listen to them and won't because I've heard how bad they are.
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Sources/Links? I don't need no stinking sources/links!
it sure would help your credibility. Don't get me wrong your opinions are great and all.
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So? I read his article too. I just don't respect or care about his opinion at all because he his misses 95% of the time. Hell he said that Shonn Greene would be a 1,400 yard back this season (2010). Did not happen. The guy is an alright writer, but his sports-related stuff is shite.
his predictions might be wrong and specific things but his sources are legit.
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:27 pm to GamecockAlum
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Really kid? You said Mallett has no chance of being the number one pick. The head coach of the Panthers - the team with the number one pick - has said they are looking at him for the pick. That alone proves you are wrong.
yeah really Kid. I'm not much younger than you.
Mallett has no chance. He has about as much chance as Christian Ponder.
I understand Rivera said that and that's all fine and great. However, it doesn't prove me wrong. We have no way of knowing if they're seriously talking about it but i'd say no since Mallett has never been talked about going in the top 20.
Like I've said all along if they like Mallett I think they'll trade back into the 2nd and give away more picks.
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:29 pm to adammwilson
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no you're just an idiot. Everyone on the board knows that.
Coming from you, that's a compliment. NO ONE gives a damn about what you say on this board. Hell I only talk with you because hell at least I will never feel bad or depressed about myself because I'll never be as pathetic as you.
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and about the top 5 qb's in the nfl not running fast I'd disagree.
Rodgers and Roethlisberger both run pretty well.
What? Those guys are not fast Adamm. Yeah they can move in the pocket. So can Mallett. Dan Marino was a stone footed sombitch and he is a top 3 quarterback of all time. That's a damn fact.
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yes but this much from this many different sources it's very doubtful.
So it's not plausible even though you say your little mock draft buddies supposedly get all their information from sources within the NFL? Did you ever consider that maybe the teams have told them we don't like him and they all ran with it and created a public perception that Mallett is no good?
You really have no idea how the NFL works do you?
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yes
What a joyous day this will be.
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and when he isn't will you do the same?
Hell no. I've never stated where I picked him to be selected. I have no idea what may come out about him between now and then. But I'm glad you went ahead and locked yourself into this bet.
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:33 pm to adammwilson
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yes and if you think the coach was serious Idk what to tell you.
So you don't think the coach is serious because what he says doesn't fall in line with your opinion?
I'm loving this.
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I linked credible mock draft sites
There is only one credible mock draft guy - Mike Mayock - and even he tells people to take his mock draft with a big grain of salt.
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I also linked credible journalists
There are no credible sports journalists. You do realize these are the same people who will do anything - including make shite up or just say plain silly shite - to get reader hits right? You do realize that journalists aren't in it for the credibility but for the popularity which in turn translates to more money in their pockets, right?
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:35 pm to adammwilson
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what do you mean? I'm not talking about Kiper/ Mcshay here. I never listen to them and won't because I've heard how bad they are.
So who are your experts Adamm? Enlighten me.
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it sure would help your credibility. Don't get me wrong your opinions are great and all.
Ask me if I care about message board credibility. This is a message board, not the New York Times.
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his predictions might be wrong and specific things but his sources are legit.
What sources? The guy writes almost entirely based on opinions and personal encounters. The guy is well known for sure, but no serious football fan takes King seriously.
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:35 pm to GamecockAlum
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NO ONE gives a damn about what you say on this board.
how would you know?
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What? Those guys are not fast Adamm. Yeah they can move in the pocket. So can Mallett.
they can move out of the pocket as well.
Mallett is like a late career Drew Bledsoe with more upside. His lack of mobility will be a detriment and he will have to have a top 10 o.line group to be successful.
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So it's not plausible even though you say your little mock draft buddies supposedly get all their information from sources within the NFL? Did you ever consider that maybe the teams have told them we don't like him and they all ran with it and created a public perception that Mallett is no good?
no I don't. You're not going to fool every single member of the media. Not to mention not every team is into those kind of shenanigans.
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I've never stated where I picked him to be selected.
so do it now
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:37 pm to adammwilson
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Mallett has no chance. He has about as much chance as Christian Ponder.
You have provided so much sig material in this thread and this may just be the best of them all. Hell I may call you out on this one.
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Mallett has never been talked about going in the top 20.
WHAT?!?!?
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I think they'll trade back into the 2nd and give away more picks.
LOLWUT?
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