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re: Mizzou OC Josh Henson

Posted on 6/10/14 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 2:15 pm to
That Nub game was terrible.

Same type of personnel in that game for nubs though. NFL talent vs. Steckel D is not a good matchup. The only outlier was the Navy game, there were no NFL players, just terrible coaching.
Posted by TigerBornTigerBred
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 2:26 pm to
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Yep the only team to allow more points to Auburn was Western Carolina, so unless our linebackers are western carolina level most of it has to go on Steckel


Steckel is stubborn, he refuses to adjust no matter how bad he's getting burned. It's frustrating, he has to go like Yost had to go. The Auburn game was a fireable offense imo.
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 2:29 pm
Posted by TigerBornTigerBred
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 2:34 pm to
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Yeah Steckel has some real blind spots. I honestly think we should have won the Auburn game. Overall we had better players, and there is no way we should have given up nearly the same number of points as Western Carolina. I also think this will keep coming up with Steckel in big games until it is somehow dealt with.


Sadly hes gonna cost us a couple more Big time games before Pinkel will boot him, he's blindly loyal to him. That's the one thing that's always irked me about Pinkel, his blind loyalty to his assistants, its one of the biggest reasons he could never reach the next level here, his cronies have held us back for years and I'm tired of it. Keeping those guys around was criminal.
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 2:36 pm
Posted by roadhouse
Chicago
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 3:31 pm to
Steckel has his faults but our D is infinitely better than under DC and has gotten better in each of the past two years.
Posted by TigerBornTigerBred
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 3:59 pm to
Unfortunately those faults cost us multiple games and its sad because it can be corrected but he refuses to change. Can't wait for more 3rd and Steckels, Yay.
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 4:02 pm
Posted by TigerBornTigerBred
Member since Mar 2014
1516 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 4:03 pm to
As for Henson I couldn't be happier, he is light years better than surfer boy ever was. If I had to watch that SOB waste our big tall WR's by throwing 70 percent bubble screens I was going to smash something.
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 7:39 pm to
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Steckel has his faults but our D is infinitely better than under DC and has gotten better in each of the past two years.
I agree with this but I still think that run/screen linebacker issue is going to have to be fixed if we want to win a big one. So far all we can do is get there. Then again we never used to be able to do that so I'm not really bitching.
Posted by roadhouse
Chicago
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 10:24 pm to
Our D was probably middle to upper middle of the pack in the SEC last year, we were one of the worst in the B12 for many years. Improvement is definitely needed, but we've come a long way. We just don't get the talent on D that we do on O. I'm not saying Steck shouldn't be accountable for his shortcomings and start being open to making adjustments, but we have to have a little perspective on how much it's improved over the past 7 years.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 12:06 am to
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. We just don't get the talent on D that we do on O.


Seems like we put about as many D players in the pro's as O and they go just as high, so don't think I agree w/ that statement.

Good topic for another thread though.
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 9:37 am to
We don't seem to put that many LB's in the pros, but we seem to use them badly too. Arkansas held Auburn to 35. Are out LB's twice as bad as Arkansas?
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 10:43 am to
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We don't seem to put that many LB's in the pros


If Wilson sticks that will be like 4 in the last 5 years, not a lot, but about as much as anything else. We put more LB's than Safetys in the pros, I still think the D issues are more about scheme than quality of player.


This post was edited on 6/11/14 at 10:45 am
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 10:50 am to
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I still think the D issues are more about scheme than quality of player.
I totally agree with you there
Posted by roadhouse
Chicago
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 12:08 pm to
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Seems like we put about as many D players in the pro's as O and they go just as high


We do well with D linemen.
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