re: Andy Reid talk needs to stop

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I meant it would have been good for 1st year in the SEC. 3-4 years from now not so much.

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I could agree with this. But, we only won 5. There are 3 that should have been wins - Vandy, Florida and Syracuse. But should haves don't cut it.

I'm willing to give Pinkel a year to straighten things out - if he's willing to make some changes to coaches and schemes. The spread can work, I believe - but it needs power running in the SEC. If he persists with the "no changes, our way works" philosophy, I'm open to a change and Kirby Smart would be my choice.

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I agree, look at A&M

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Exactly - but you need a strong OL and a power run option to use. We don't have that right now.

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I want to challenge this. I would have been happy, but not to the point that I thought we didn't need to improve. I think we are at a point, as a program, where 8 wins is should no longer be considered "really" good.

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I think both thoughts can co-exist. I think 8 wins would have been really good. But I also would still believe that improvements have to be made. Realistically, we were playing 11 new opponents, 12 really with the new HC at A&M, in a much tougher conference. So I can see where saying one is not to the exclusion of the other.