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re: 2014 MLB Playoffs Thread. ***LCS EDITION***

Posted on 5/13/14 at 11:32 pm to
Posted by kilo
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Posted on 5/13/14 at 11:32 pm to
What would you all be willing to part with to land this guy from the Marlins?

Giancarlo Stanton

Would probably take a combo of Miller and Tavares but this kid is the real deal. Could be a staple in the heart of the Cardinal line up for years.

Lots of rumors being floated around about him and the Cards have the pieces to make the deal.
Posted by Remote Controlled
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Posted on 5/13/14 at 11:36 pm to
I can pull every pitch out of the park, because I did 10x10 225lb. Barbell Curls at 2 pm today.

My theory was proven during 3 pm batting practice when I pulled every pitch down the line and deep.

At 7 pm, when the game started I had to stand out in left field and try and catch fly balls, so my power band was affected. At approximately 92% power conductivity I hit with runners on first and second and one out, and absolutely crushed a fastball in to the SS for a double play.

I approximated my bat speed at over 96 MPH. However, I forgot to do my last wrist curl rep and therefore turned it over.

For the next 47 minutes I stood in the outfield flexing my biceps and quads, and enjoying the burn, and sitting in the dugout using Gatorade bottles to get in those missed wrist curl reps. I was sure next at bat I cut turn one around for sure.

Also, I caught a fly ball. Not sure how though.

At approximately, 8:12 I got to hit a gain with no one on and one out. My Maximus swing speed was 101.982 MPH and I was sure to Max out on the 1-2 slider.

By my calculations, I reached 101.643 MPH bat speed. This can only be explained by the extra set of clean and jerks done during the am Max out session.

Obviously, I didn't carb load enough today.

After drinking a Tiger Milk I made two catches in the fourth that I don't recall, then I walked I the 5th. This is obviously due to the added retinal proteins from the Tiger Milk. I was doubled off at second on a pop up to left by a hair. I tossed my helmet.

I spent the next 52 minutes kissing my "CEOs" and massaging my prostate internally via the kegel method. I also caught a foul ball, and fielded two base hits. During the 6th inning Molina asked me something about my delts, and I grunted to him positively.

When I returned to the white square club box, I estimated my maximum bat speed to be only be 91.921 MPH due to my rigorous kegel prostate exercises. Unfortunately that slowed bats speed only led to a two RBI double.

During the next 72 minutes I drank 3 more Tigers Milks and stopped doing prostate kegels.

Then, I took a shower, did my post game squats and checked my Facebook. I also talked to people.

Looking forward to tomorrow's lift sked, leg press all morning and then aircraft tugging until BP.

Hopefully, I'll go yard down the line tommorow. :)



Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 5/13/14 at 11:41 pm to
I'd give them Miller and Adams in a heartbeat, with prospects not named Grichuk, Piscotty, or Taveras. But then the trade wouldn't make much sense. A logjam would then become the Hoover Dam.

Would probably have to pay Stanton close to 10 million a year, think he's at 6.5 this year, then give him a monster contract in 2017.

Not a fan of that.

I'm really liking some of our younger OFers.

Unless the organization is down on Oscar I'd say pass.

Really wish we were able to get Profar with some of our trade chips. But that won't happen now.



Posted by Remote Controlled
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Posted on 5/13/14 at 11:45 pm to
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 5/13/14 at 11:47 pm to
Ahahahahaha. Many laughs. That's art.

Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 5/13/14 at 11:49 pm to
Wonder if he'd switch back to Mike if he came to the good old Midwest.

Cause I ain't saying Juan Carlos all the time.

eta: Guancarlo, excuse me.
This post was edited on 5/13/14 at 11:55 pm
Posted by kilo
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Posted on 5/13/14 at 11:55 pm to
quote:

I'd give them Miller and Adams in a heartbeat, with prospects not named Grichuk, Piscotty, or Taveras. But then the trade wouldn't make much sense. A logjam would then become the Hoover Dam.


I think the Cards FO has cooled on Taveras a bit. Just my opinion with nothing else to back it up.

If Miller and Taveras would land Stanton, I would pull the trigger. You would have Holliday deal coming off the books and replace his salary and production with Stanton without missing a beat.

In fact, the situation reminds me a lot of the time we landed Holliday from Oakland.

Will it happen? Dont know but that would go a long way to fixing some of our power issues.

Posted by kilo
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Posted on 5/13/14 at 11:56 pm to
quote:

Wonder if he'd switch back to Mike if he came to the good old Midwest.

Cause I ain't saying Juan Carlos all the time.


He wants to be called (phonetic) /zhan carlo/ now.

Posted by Remote Controlled
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Posted on 5/13/14 at 11:57 pm to
That's a winner!
Posted by kilo
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 12:00 am to
quote:

Here's the scuttlebutt...


Ah, nice read. Thanks for the link.

So he is saying Craig and Miller.

So that puts Holliday in LF, Stanton in RF. Center Taveras?

Yes please.

Only think that worries me about that is Adams long term prospects as an everyday first baseman.
Posted by kilo
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 12:00 am to
quote:

That's a winner!
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 12:03 am to
quote:



I think the Cards FO has cooled on Taveras a bit. Just my opinion with nothing else to back it up.


Thanks for sharing your gut feeling, but you're gonna need stats or something legitimate like stats and only stats to support this feeling otherwise it's silly.



But yeah, I think he's cooled a little bit in their eyes.

I think one of Craig or Adams needs to be moved too. I don't know what they've got up their sleeves, but seems like some big things could happen this year with trades.
This post was edited on 5/14/14 at 12:05 am
Posted by kilo
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 12:09 am to
quote:

Thanks for sharing your gut feeling, but you're gonna need stats or something legitimate like stats and only stats to support this feeling otherwise it's silly.



You mean other than he is still in Memphis even though the team is struggling for offense? Or the fact Grichuk got the call up over him, or maybe the beat writers at the STL PostDispatch have said as much?

quote:

I think one of Craig or Adams needs to be moved too. I don't know what they've got up their sleeves, but seems like some big things could happen this year with trades.



Im not sure how much value Adams has right now honestly. Since being thrown into the line up last year after Craig's injury he has been kind of exposed.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 12:17 am to
quote:


You mean other than he is still in Memphis even though the team is struggling for offense? Or the fact Grichuk got the call up over him, or maybe the beat writers at the STL PostDispatch have said as much?



Well him being in Memphis while the offense is struggling doesn't mean they cooled on him. They're letting things play out. They're letting guys they have show what they can do so that the appropriate decision can be made on who to trade.

Grichuk being called up before him doesn't mean they cooled on him either. They don't want to call up OT until there is a place for him to get regular at bats. Grichuk was brought up to maybe give some pop off the bench and get a couple starts.

But yes, with the way he handled the ankle injury, and his numbers down a little this year, they very well may have cooled on him a little bit.

quote:


Im not sure how much value Adams has right now honestly. Since being thrown into the line up last year after Craig's injury he has been kind of exposed.


The guy is hitting .300 and definitely can hit the other way, which is a major plus for a guy that seemed like a dead pull hitter.

I'm not real high on him, if you weigh 260 lbs I want power. Maybe he's too focused on spraying to all fields, cutting down his power.

But he definitely has value. He's shown he can hit and he can very much play his position.
Posted by reedus23
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:00 am to
I think Adams has let teams playing a major shift on him get in his head. I have seen him take definitive swings where he was clearly trying to show he can go the other way. Here's a quick blurb from a Bernie (yes, can't stand him, but he had the info).

quote:

Adams' batted balls in play break down this way: 32 percent to the left side, 27 percent to the middle/center, 41 percent to the right side.


LINK

At this point, he needs to stop trying to show teams that he can go to all fields and return to his swing of last year. I'll take .275 with power over .300 with no power. Now, if he wants to go .300 with power, I won't argue.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:05 am to
quote:

I'd give them Miller and Adams in a heartbeat, with prospects not named Grichuk, Piscotty, or Taveras. But then the trade wouldn't make much sense. A logjam would then become the Hoover Dam.


I don't necessarily see it that way. Yes, you are getting an OF in return. But, you are still getting rid of an OF, by moving Craig to 1B. While it's not necessarily alleviating the logjam, it isn't making it worse.

If you get Stanton, though, and he's the real deal and signed to a long term contract, I'd imagine they have to trade Taveras. He doesn't project long term as at CF.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:26 am to
Piscotty was drafted at 3B. Played a year in the minors there. Yes, struggled a bit with the glove there in that first year and was promptly moved to the OF. Any idea if he's athletic enough that maybe some work with Oquendo and he could play 3B? Eliminates some of the OF logjam. Moves Carpenter back to 2B. Adds some offense without a trade.

I'm probably stretching and over thinking it, but just didn't realize he was drafted as a third baseman.
Posted by Mizzoufan26
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:41 am to
quote:

I'd give them Miller and Adams in a heartbeat, with prospects not named Grichuk, Piscotty, or Taveras. But then the trade wouldn't make much sense. A logjam would then become the Hoover Dam.



Eh, maybe, maybe not. It's still a question mark about whether Taveras can man center field. Still seems like that's up in the air, although i'm sure everyone would prefer him to be in a corner spot.

We could drop Jay though keep Bourgoues(sp?), Craig goes to first. Piscotty and Grichuk would be stuck in the minors for a while, but that's no different then now. If they can make us better they end up taking whomever's spot eventually otherwise we can trade them when needed.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:34 pm to
Is Rosie sandbagging?

Threw 98 when he came into a bad situation in the 8th

Back to 95 here in the 9th

Maybe he's sandbagging, saving himself instead of throwing 100% everytime.
Posted by everytrueson
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:41 am to
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