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re: Not bad for a young Defense
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:00 pm to tjv305
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:00 pm to tjv305
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The chance of our offense being top 3 in this conference next year with Mac as the head coach is less then our chances off winning the SEC championship game this year
This is a dumb statement. There's zero chance we win the SEC this year. There's a possibility that things click for the offense and it takes off based on the personnel we return and are bringing in. It's silly to act like progress isn't possible.
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Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:06 pm to atlgator
The posters on this board, at least the negative ones, seem to have a peculiar case of tunnel vision.
They see that the offense isn't doing better, so they automatically try to say it's because of coaching. Nevermind the #1 QB, #1 WR, #2 WR, #3 WR and #1 RB being out a game or two (#3 was at least there for LSU), that doesn't matter! The only thing that matters are the stats -- of course, unless they're positive.
We have a very young, inexperienced team who is absolutely going to be better next year.
Why in the frick wouldn't they? Our entire defense outside of the line is coming back (the two DBs that are seniors don't look as good as their younger counterparts), and our entire offense outside of the line (possibly the entire offense) is coming back and we're going to have more weapons and depth on offense.
To think that things won't progress EVEN THIS YEAR is a silly, knee-jerk reaction.
They see that the offense isn't doing better, so they automatically try to say it's because of coaching. Nevermind the #1 QB, #1 WR, #2 WR, #3 WR and #1 RB being out a game or two (#3 was at least there for LSU), that doesn't matter! The only thing that matters are the stats -- of course, unless they're positive.
We have a very young, inexperienced team who is absolutely going to be better next year.
Why in the frick wouldn't they? Our entire defense outside of the line is coming back (the two DBs that are seniors don't look as good as their younger counterparts), and our entire offense outside of the line (possibly the entire offense) is coming back and we're going to have more weapons and depth on offense.
To think that things won't progress EVEN THIS YEAR is a silly, knee-jerk reaction.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 11:26 am to dbuchanon
So where does our offense rank ?
Posted on 10/19/17 at 11:48 am to atlgator
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This is a dumb statement. There's zero chance we win the SEC this year. There's a possibility that things click for the offense and it takes off based on the personnel we return and are bringing in. It's silly to act like progress isn't possible.
We have had very little if any progress on offense in 2.5 season . and it's realistic to think that the offense next year will become one of the top 3 in the conference from bottom 3-5 this year. Lol with a new coaching staff it's more likely because this staff hasn't had progress yet.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 4:09 pm to tjv305
The only pattern at UF is offenses not in the top 100. So it's perfectly reasonable to assume a top tier offense next year.
If you are insanely dumb.
If you are insanely dumb.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 8:47 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
we want results not excuses . Apparently excuses are great for you guys.
You talking about the team having potential for progress this year is funny when you wanted Franks benched.
You sound like your your expectations for this team next year are very high . Would you please share them with us ? If Mac returns I could see our offense finishing around 7th in the conference and the team going around 8-4.
You talking about the team having potential for progress this year is funny when you wanted Franks benched.
You sound like your your expectations for this team next year are very high . Would you please share them with us ? If Mac returns I could see our offense finishing around 7th in the conference and the team going around 8-4.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 9:01 pm to tjv305
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we want results not excuses .
Back to back 10 win seasons says that results don't matter to you.
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You talking about the team having potential for progress this year is funny when you wanted Franks benched.
I absolutely think we should at least give Zaire at least a shot. He wants it, the offense isn't producing, what do we lose to give it to him?
Franks won't beat out Corral next year (if Corral does indeed come), and I don't see why we should sacrifice Franks' body to prepare for next year so you can shite yourself in a tantrum and complain that we're not winning enough games.
What exactly do we lose to giving Zaire a chance? A Georgia game nobody is predicting us to win?
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You sound like your your expectations for this team next year are very high .
They are. It's a very favorable schedule next year.
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If Mac returns I could see our offense finishing around 7th in the conference and the team going around 8-4.
Completely possible, and if that's the case McElwain needs to get on gettin' on. He's handicapped badly this year.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 9:05 pm to tjv305
The offense is actually ranked better then I thought in Total offense coming in 10th in the SEC . We are ranked 12th in Scoring offense in the SEC.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 9:06 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
You really need to sit back and relax with Carrol. You putting every single hope and argument on a kid who hasn't played a down here is simply astonishing. While we all have high hopes for the kid, you assume far to much from a freshman coming in dude. Thinking this kid comes in, magically fixed three years of pedestrian offense? That's a lot of expectations on a true freshman.
I constantly see you using the RS freshman QB excuse as though that is a big deal, yet then return and say the offense will be fine once a freshman gets here? How does it work both ways.
I constantly see you using the RS freshman QB excuse as though that is a big deal, yet then return and say the offense will be fine once a freshman gets here? How does it work both ways.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 9:13 pm to Gatorbait2008
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I constantly see you using the RS freshman QB excuse as though that is a big deal, yet then return and say the offense will be fine once a freshman gets here? How does it work both ways.
They're not the same player?
Franks played baseball in high school and switched to Football.
https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/feleipe-franks/FoKIrvTmEeKZ5AAmVebBJg/gendersport/baseball-stats.htm
Corral is a true quarterback, doesn't play other sports and if you've heard him talk -- he knows football. Franks has always been a work-in-progress.
Fromm is a true freshman and he's doing fairly well with great run support and a line to boot. Corral will have that next year.
I'm not putting all my hope into it, but we finally have a really, really good quarterback who is probably going to start all three years if he isn't a bust or, as you've been saying, McElwain can't coach up a quarterback.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 9:21 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
If the staff can coach up Franks then he needs the experience for next year . Zaire will not be here and he was horrible in the only time he played this year . What if Zaire starts and sucks worse then Franks ? Would you start to admit we having a coaching problem? I care more about the offense improving then wins but if the offense improves we should win every game but maybe Georgia. Isn’t Corral on the roster ? Why would he not be here next year?
Tell me what your expectations for next year . I have told you mine for Mac being the coach next year .
Tell me what your expectations for next year . I have told you mine for Mac being the coach next year .
Posted on 10/19/17 at 9:29 pm to tjv305
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If the staff can coach up Franks then he needs the experience for next year . Zaire will not be here and he was horrible in the only time he played this year . What if Zaire starts and sucks worse then Franks ? Would you start to admit we having a coaching problem?
Neither player had snaps in the Florida offense until this year, why would a 5th year senior from another school who couldn't win the job there be McElwain's fault?
Why would a quarterback like Franks, who was always going to be a WIP be a sign of anything? If he busts, which possible, it's common in all forms of football. Some guys just don't do well at the next level.
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I care more about the offense improving then wins but if the offense improves we should win every game but maybe Georgia.
We have to go to a bowl, period. Six wins, frick losing seasons. Every game now is must-win, even Georgia.
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Isn’t Corral on the roster ? Why would he not be here next year?
A lot of shite happens in recruiting, I think he's pretty solid (He'd hurt his prospect very badly if he decided to go somewhere else.), but nothing is absolute.
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Tell me what your expectations for next year . I have told you mine for Mac being the coach next year .
Already did.
8 Wins - Fire him. The opposition isn't strong.
9 Wins - I'm disappointed but not pissed off, one more year.
10 Wins - What he ought to get unless the team dies in a plane crash or some crazy shite.
11 Wins - I'm fine.
Undefeated - This is Florida, we don't do that.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 9:35 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Saw an interview with Corral today. Hes solid to UF imo.
Wants to EE to help his chances of starting next yr. Copeland, Chase, Cleveland,Toney,Gamble,Pitts,Pierce,Davis.
Yes, if that offense cant score ill be all for driving to Macs house and packing his shite myself.
Wants to EE to help his chances of starting next yr. Copeland, Chase, Cleveland,Toney,Gamble,Pitts,Pierce,Davis.
Yes, if that offense cant score ill be all for driving to Macs house and packing his shite myself.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 9:45 pm to dbuchanon
Crossing fingers. Times get tough we see which kids really want to be Gators. My worry is the same with the 2013 class. We had an insane class(including Cook) and then it slipped away as the record got worse.
We are likely to lose to Georgia. Should beat Missouri. USCe and FSU are at best toss ups, if not them favored. We could seriously not bowl this year. It is possible. I don't know who all we would lose, but we would likely lose a few kids because the negative recruiting would be fairly easy. Corral is obviously the key to the whole class. Have to keep him.
We are likely to lose to Georgia. Should beat Missouri. USCe and FSU are at best toss ups, if not them favored. We could seriously not bowl this year. It is possible. I don't know who all we would lose, but we would likely lose a few kids because the negative recruiting would be fairly easy. Corral is obviously the key to the whole class. Have to keep him.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 9:46 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
5-8 vs the top 25
11-11 vs teams .500 or better
0 offensive TDs vs FSU
1-6 vs the SECW
5-5 vs rivals
Those 22 wins he's got don't look so hot now.
11-11 vs teams .500 or better
0 offensive TDs vs FSU
1-6 vs the SECW
5-5 vs rivals
Those 22 wins he's got don't look so hot now.
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 10/19/17 at 9:49 pm to Gatorbait2008
The problem with this class isn't that great overall. Its top heavy only because of pierce,Chase, Corral and Copeland. We lose any of them and we're screwed. The defensive side is a mess. We lose most of them and we fall to the 20s or worse.
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 10/19/17 at 9:51 pm to TJGator1215
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Those 22 wins he's got don't look so hot now.
Without a QB.. the mans a friggan miracle worker.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 9:55 pm to dbuchanon
He's had 5 of them. He just sucks at finding the right one and coaching them.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 10:06 pm to dbuchanon
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Saw an interview with Corral today. Hes solid to UF imo.
Yeah, I think a second decommit would do a lot of harm for him, and it sounds like he just wants to get out of Dodge and away from his mom.
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Wants to EE to help his chances of starting next yr. Copeland, Chase, Cleveland,Toney,Gamble,Pitts,Pierce,Davis.
frickin' scary amount of pure talent.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 4:44 am to TJGator1215
Our defense is #41 after playing these offenses:
#87 UM
#117 UT
#107 UK
#125 VU
#75 LSU
#66 TAMU
That's pathetic
Our offense is #106 after playing these defenses:
#1 UM
#52 UT
#68 UK
#87 VU
#22 LSU
#63 TAMU
#87 UM
#117 UT
#107 UK
#125 VU
#75 LSU
#66 TAMU
That's pathetic
Our offense is #106 after playing these defenses:
#1 UM
#52 UT
#68 UK
#87 VU
#22 LSU
#63 TAMU
This post was edited on 10/20/17 at 4:45 am
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