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If the next coach uses the spread system
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:06 am
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:06 am
UF will be in Atlanta by year 2.
Simple as that.
Florida schools almost all run spread style offenses(save Cocoa Beach).
If we get Campbell I will shite bricks. I just watched ISU over TCU and my God. He just has it. His team simply looks well coached. They play to their strengths, they don't make careless mistakes, they get after the ball on defense, and they don't have mental breakdowns.
I got side tracked on my excitement for Campbell.
However; if we hire a pro style HC...we may be in serious trouble. I pray Stricklin understands pro style is a failed system at UF. See Zook, Muschamp, and Mac. It just doesn't work here. PLEASE NO PRO STYLE>
Simple as that.
Florida schools almost all run spread style offenses(save Cocoa Beach).
If we get Campbell I will shite bricks. I just watched ISU over TCU and my God. He just has it. His team simply looks well coached. They play to their strengths, they don't make careless mistakes, they get after the ball on defense, and they don't have mental breakdowns.
I got side tracked on my excitement for Campbell.
However; if we hire a pro style HC...we may be in serious trouble. I pray Stricklin understands pro style is a failed system at UF. See Zook, Muschamp, and Mac. It just doesn't work here. PLEASE NO PRO STYLE>
This post was edited on 10/30/17 at 12:27 am
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Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:10 am to Gatorbait2008
i think strick mentioned fun, so i think he knows what everyone wants.
campbell's teams do look disciplined. have you listened to any of his pressers? sounds like saban 2.0
not my first choice, my 4th actually, but i'd be excited if we got him. seems like a true program/team builder.
campbell's teams do look disciplined. have you listened to any of his pressers? sounds like saban 2.0
not my first choice, my 4th actually, but i'd be excited if we got him. seems like a true program/team builder.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:28 am to SailorGator
I have him over Frost. More proven, and has done it vs better competition.
Just my two cents. I have him behind Kelly and Leach...and that's it. I would send a massive donation if he was hired. Drive up and break into Strick's office and leave a thank you basket on his desk.
Just my two cents. I have him behind Kelly and Leach...and that's it. I would send a massive donation if he was hired. Drive up and break into Strick's office and leave a thank you basket on his desk.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:34 am to Gatorbait2008
there are several great options out there at the moment. if we don't get out of our slump with this hire then i'm afraid of what happens with smart at uga. we've been decent to bad for a long time now.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:49 am to SailorGator
Agree. I feel there are three really good choices we have real shots at
Campbell/Frost/Taggart
We also have to give Kelly a call. Sorry but I would go down with the ship with that hire. It would prove UF is done being cheap, and that Strick is fully committed to doing whatever it takes to win.
Campbell/Frost/Taggart
We also have to give Kelly a call. Sorry but I would go down with the ship with that hire. It would prove UF is done being cheap, and that Strick is fully committed to doing whatever it takes to win.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 2:33 am to SailorGator
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i think strick mentioned fun, so i think he knows what everyone wants.
He did indeed, which is a curious word to use. Stricklin is a very, very smart man and doesn't say things carelessly or without thought.
He mentioned words like ''fun'', ''integrity'' and ''long term'' for a reason. He clearly wants someone young and who is willing to come to Florida for a while.
This post was edited on 10/30/17 at 2:41 am
Posted on 10/30/17 at 8:53 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
My one knock against Campbell is that Jacob Parks was their starting QB and he was a turnover machine. Backup comes in and they beat OU and TCU.
Very interested to see how he does the rest of the season.
He did well at Toledo and is having a great year. More HC experience in a big conference than Frost.
Very interested to see how he does the rest of the season.
He did well at Toledo and is having a great year. More HC experience in a big conference than Frost.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 10:43 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
If it's Frost, people need to give the guy their support and some room to breathe.
That means, not calling to fire him halfway into year 1 or halfway into year 2. Hopefully he doesn't give anybody cause to want to fire him, but people need to give him, or whoever it is, the time to change the culture and get us right.
That means, not calling to fire him halfway into year 1 or halfway into year 2. Hopefully he doesn't give anybody cause to want to fire him, but people need to give him, or whoever it is, the time to change the culture and get us right.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 11:08 am to atlgator
Once again, the culture is an issue.
There is a general lack of discipline and focus in the program right now.
But on the flip side, I think the offensive talent is worlds better than what it was.
Defense though... that may take some fixing.
There is a general lack of discipline and focus in the program right now.
But on the flip side, I think the offensive talent is worlds better than what it was.
Defense though... that may take some fixing.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:18 pm to atlgator
quote:I like Frost but he has ZERO clue how to run big boy football. UF is not the place to learn on the job. No...
If it's Frost, people need to give the guy their support and some room to breathe.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:19 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
UCF is not the same as UF.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:24 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
Watch his offense, though. Of course it's not the same, but you can see where eyes are looking, you can see what the defense is doing and watching the UCF games --
Defenses have no idea how to stop him. It's completely unpredictable.
1st in total points achieved and averaging over 500 yards a game.
Defenses have no idea how to stop him. It's completely unpredictable.
1st in total points achieved and averaging over 500 yards a game.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:32 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
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I like Frost but he has ZERO clue how to run big boy football. UF is not the place to learn on the job. No.
i agree, but frost is a bit different than most college coaches. he's spent a lot of time in the nfl. has been under some absolutely outstanding coaches as an assistant. did a great job as oc for helfrich at uo. looks like it's no accident he's doing as well as he is at ucf.
he's the only non-experienced guy i would take. hell, i thought campbell was relatively inexperienced but that dude is on his 7th year as a head coach.
aside from who i want, i think we get frost or campbell. though i would be very happy with either.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 7:15 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Glad we can finally start agreeing again on things 
Posted on 10/30/17 at 7:18 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
Frost has history with some of the greatest minds in the sports history. He seems incredibly detailed, his teams do the little things right. He would be a very good higher. Fact is it's impossible to find a guy who knows big boy football outside of maybe three people. Those three are highly unlikely. Stoops, Kelly, Leach.
So got to go with realistic options. Frost has been around the best coach in NFL history, a coach who had a massive CFB dynasty, etc. He is a pure gem. Campbell as well.
Get either of them. UF is on point.
So got to go with realistic options. Frost has been around the best coach in NFL history, a coach who had a massive CFB dynasty, etc. He is a pure gem. Campbell as well.
Get either of them. UF is on point.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 7:30 pm to Gatorbait2008
100% right on Frost, man. Nailed it. And I mean: Just watch his offense at work. They are well-coached, well-disciplined and the only thing he is missing is star talent.
But he's absolutely killing it out there, and it's not even the talent -- just on playcalling alone. Against Memphis they had a play where the RB basically went out to block a blitzing linebacker and released right after, got like 20 yards easy and it was obviously a called play from the very beginning.
He just has this weird ability to hit the defense where they're not expecting it at all.
But he's absolutely killing it out there, and it's not even the talent -- just on playcalling alone. Against Memphis they had a play where the RB basically went out to block a blitzing linebacker and released right after, got like 20 yards easy and it was obviously a called play from the very beginning.
He just has this weird ability to hit the defense where they're not expecting it at all.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 8:20 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
RB's doing hesitation routes to block before going out is common..
when you don't have a third grade level offense lol
when you don't have a third grade level offense lol
Posted on 10/30/17 at 8:28 pm to Gatorbait2008
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RB's doing hesitation routes to block before going out is common..
when you don't have a third grade level offense lol
It's not the entire point, it's that: It's the right call at the right time with perfect execution.
The quarterback saw a blitz, they checked in and then they did exactly what they needed to do on easy things.
We just don't have that type of playcalling, not even close. It's on Franks to see things to change it, but it's also the style of our offense -- ''don't worry about anything other than the protections''.
I like Frost because when I watch his offense, it's like he's got a sixth sense for what the defense is doing and he's doing it with a team that went 0 - 12 in 2015.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 8:42 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I have heard Nuss is a control freak(Grier mentioned it as well as other QB's who played for him). So his offense doesn't do audibles outside of very basic protection stuff and maybe run check downs if you see an imbalanced line.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 9:27 pm to Gatorbait2008
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I have heard Nuss is a control freak(Grier mentioned it as well as other QB's who played for him). So his offense doesn't do audibles outside of very basic protection stuff and maybe run check downs if you see an imbalanced line.
I can totally believe that. We haven't had a single quarterback who even looked remotely comfortable running an audible -- and really we didn't even have enough time. Doug's no on the field and it doesn't look like McElwain had any desire to put plays in and so we have like 25 seconds to rush to the line, not even get a look at the defense and get crushed.
Which is why I like Frost's offense. They rush to the line, they get the look THEN call the play from the spread and go from there. Much faster, more coordinated and the quarterback can communicate.
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