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re: 2022 Recruiting and beyond. (Updated: 20/JUN/2021)

Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:05 pm to
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:05 pm to
quote:

I think we should be favored for the East if Fromm leaves


Even if he stays.

This Georgia bullshite of playing like 8 cupcakes before going into Jacksonville isn't happening in 2020.

This year, right before Jacksonville we played:

Auburn, LSU, South Carolina, Kentucky when they had a QB and Miami to open the year.

They played:

Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, Kentucky with a WR at QB, South Carolina's backup for the second half and Tennessee's backup.

Next year they open with:

Virginia, Alabama, Auburn before they play us.

We play:

LSU (Home game, no Joe Burrow), SCAR and Tennessee.

quote:

WR and DB are my biggest concerns next year.


I don't know, Kaiir has looked very good and it depends on who is actually leaving. Our younger guys have actually been performing at a very high level and maybe Dean gets moved to the perimeter again.

WR I think is fine, too. Pitts is really the linchpin to everything. With him, it causes immediate mismatches all over the field and changes how the defense has to play.

Also, this OL had better get its head on its shoulders and learn to run block, even having an average running game with Trask will open a lot of doors.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 6:38 am to
Georgia is the better team right now than Florida because of better game day coaching in Jacksonville. Until that changes uf won’t beat them.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 9:43 am to
I agree that there was a bad game plan but it's also the same argument that Clemson has this year -- they started the hard part of their schedule with us whereas our schedule started difficult.

Thus we had to show more of our playbook since by the time we played Georgia we had already played two top ten teams whereas they hadn't played a single ranked team outside of Notre Dame, who, let's not kid ourselves is almost always overrated like this year.

They played two SEC teams with a winning record this year before playing us.

We played two of the top three teams in the West before playing them and two East teams with winning records.

The schedule at times favors teams, just like it favors us next year.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 9:14 pm to
Excuses. It was game 9. Both teams had 2 weeks to prepare.

One staff laid an egg.

Mullen is 0-3 against Smart now when both are head coaches.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 10:51 pm to
One has 15 5 star recruits and walked into a team with NFL backs, one walked into a 4 win team full of 3 star talent.
Excuses arent excuses when its facts. They have more talent than us right now. We have what, 2 guys in our front 7 who would start for UGA? And they werent 100 percent over half the season.
Id love to see guys like you actually coach a team at any level since you have all the answers.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 5:15 am to
quote:

Excuses. It was game 9. Both teams had 2 weeks to prepare.

One staff laid an egg.

Mullen is 0-3 against Smart now when both are head coaches.


Uhh, playing Kentucky, Tennessee, Notre Dame, two G5/FCS teams and several other teams that were terrible is infinitely better than playing Auburn and LSU.

Whether you like it or not playing tougher opponents for several weeks in a row leading up to a game makes it more difficult on a team.

If you're not happy that we substitute some difficult opponents for easier opponents and they have to play Alabama and Auburn before playing us, I'm not sure what to tell you.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 6:10 am to
Who is responsible for the talent on these teams?

I just don’t understand why we have to make excuses.

Mullen did a great job this year. But right now Kirby is outperforming him In the sec East.

Period.
This post was edited on 12/5/19 at 6:15 am
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
9153 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 7:21 am to
quote:

Who is responsible for the talent on these teams?

I just don’t understand why we have to make excuses.

Mullen did a great job this year. But right now Kirby is outperforming him In the sec East.

Period.


I agree that Mullen and staff did not do well against UGA. They were completely retarded on every 3rd down on offense and defense.

However, I think that Mullen is a better coach than Kirby. What he has done with a bad offensive line has been amazing this year. He is a power run coach that adjusted to his team and went air raid.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 7:44 am to
Totally agree so why do we so desperately need to make excuses for losing?
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
9153 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 7:54 am to
quote:

Totally agree so why do we so desperately need to make excuses for losing?


We lost. No excuses for 3rd down on both sides of the ball.

Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
9153 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:19 am to
DL commit should be coming soon based off tweets by Turner and the recruiting staff.

Likely one of the following:
3* DE Morven Joesph (FSU commit)
4* DT Jaden Lee
4* DL Donnell Harris (Texas A&M commit)
4* DT Tim Smith (BAMA commit)
5* DE Desmond Evans (UNC commit)
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:21 am to
Kirby took over a winning team with talent.
Mullen took over a 4 win team

While we were winning 4 games they were playing for the NC. A Coaching change isnt going to level that playing field in 2 seasons.

I dont see how this is so hard for ppl like you to understand
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:24 am to
Ppl were hashtagging passrushU

So Im thinking a DE .. we ll see
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:29 am to
Jalen Lee
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:03 am to
Mullen is in year 2, Smart year 4. Smart sucked his first year, his second year the East was absolutely terrible. Mullen has a Georgia team that was on their game before he got here and is playing catch up.

Well..the catch up is almost done. Year 1 we went 9-3, got blown out in our losses all by double digits.

Year 2? Harder schedule, go 10-2. Both losses very close games with a few small mistakes costing us the win. All while dominating teams we should dominate later in the year. Major improvement, even if it's only one more win on the record.


Fact is Smart has absurd talent at Georgia.

Mullen is a better developer of talent, but he needs a little more. Offensive line play will be key next year. Not having a run game all year is absolutely brutal and cost us that Georgia game(and Grantham's baffling third down zones).
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:53 am to
I just think we can like the coaching job he is doing and we can see the obvious progress without doing strange gymnastics to excuse the loss to Georgia this year.

Anyways - let's stay on topic with recruiting.
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
9153 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

Jalen Lee


I am thinking Morven Joesph, Turner was in the Lakeland area that day and Joesph is OV this weekend.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

Totally agree so why do we so desperately need to make excuses for losing?


There is a difference between an excuse and a reason.

Kirby had the advantage of not only playing a softer schedule leading up to Jacksonville, he also caught several breaks along the way. From the Rant, I posted:

Backup Tennessee QB.

Backup Missouri QB.

Backup SCAR QB (Wildcat QB for a half, he still somehow lost).

Kentucky QB who was a receiver, and is still listed as a receiver.

In fact, the only starting QB from the East that Kirby had to face was from 1 - 7 Vanderbilt.

vs.

LSU, Miami (to open), Auburn, SCAR's 1st string QB, Tennessee's 1st string QB, Missouri's 1st string QB, A real Kentucky QB.

Again, this place is to talk football -- if nuance isn't your thing I guess I understand.

An excuse is like: "We only threw 35 yards because it was raining."

A reason is: We have fast players and the rain slows our players down and gave the other team an advantage.

Learn the difference.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 6:26 pm to
If you want to make a losing to Georgia excuse thread you can, but I think we should get off the recruiting thread.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 7:27 pm to
Jalen Lee commits to the Gators!
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