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Thanks Coach Elliot for the recruiting effort.
Posted on 2/5/13 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 2/5/13 at 6:14 pm
I talk to the kids teammate and he flat out says Taylor wants to play for Carolina but they haven't offered him anything. I even leak it on Cock Talk hoping to turn some sort of wheels. What happens instead? Clemson goes and gets him. Congrats Coach Elliot, you got a kid that clearly can play at the next level and wants to be at Carolina but thats not up to your standard. Remind me again what those are by the way? Remind me how amazing our Oline has been since you got here?
Direct Quote from his teammate. I can post screen shots if necessary.
" U seen the big arse fellow in my profile he waiting on carolina to offer him he got offer from clemson and unc so far he is a jr. 330 6-5 offense tackle. He wants go carolina bad"
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" Yea he wanted to go to carolina bad but when carolina didn't offer him yet he just inpatient and his brother putting stuff in his head he didn't want to wait.
Nice job dickhead real nice job.
Direct Quote from his teammate. I can post screen shots if necessary.
" U seen the big arse fellow in my profile he waiting on carolina to offer him he got offer from clemson and unc so far he is a jr. 330 6-5 offense tackle. He wants go carolina bad"
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" Yea he wanted to go to carolina bad but when carolina didn't offer him yet he just inpatient and his brother putting stuff in his head he didn't want to wait.
Nice job dickhead real nice job.
This post was edited on 2/5/13 at 11:02 pm
Posted on 2/5/13 at 8:00 pm to Wholelottacock
I'm sure this guy is great, but we are the leader for two of the nation's BEST OT's.
Donnell Stanley, Top 10 OT
Stanley 247 bio
Bentley Spain, Top 10 OT
Spain 247 bio
Best of luck to that guy at clemsux, but he's not anywhere on the same level as these two guys above.
As far as Coach App State...Coach Elliot has been the best OL coach we've had at Carolina since Spurrier arrived. We have the most depth, talent and the best stats under Coach Elliot. Next year we'll have 4 returning starters on the OL and 7 guys from the previous year's 2 Deep.
This post was edited on 2/5/13 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 2/5/13 at 10:40 pm to CockInYourEar
Bro take off the glasses, we are not the best we've ever been at online. We're just as bad as we've ever been at Oline. You think we're better because Marcus and the zone option read made things simplified and made them look better. want proof? LSU remind how that Oline did against LSU? Oh I remember they got their shite pushed in and couldn't sit right for a month. Meanwhile LSU manhandle out d line with an Oline comprised of not a single starter from the previous or beginning of that season.
LSU's backups < USC's starters
FYI your one of my favorite posters but I just don't get the Coach Elliot love sometimes. Les Miles smelled his arse out from a mile away and our only glaring weakness. Feel free to fill in when Coach Elliot got here. I'm pretty sure production went up solely because of him and not because we had the best running back in the game.
2013 #83 South Carolina 491 1800 3.7 64 19 138.5
2012 #27 South Carolina 553 2497 4.5 68 28 192.1
2011 #40 South Carolina 522 2161 4.1 58 26 154.4
2010 #86 South Carolina 435 1576 3.6 50 12 121.2
2009 #108South Carolina 417 1223 2.9 50 7 94.1
2008 #102South Carolina 382 1364 3.6 29 16 113.7
2007 #46 South Carolina 414 1876 4.5 88 19 144.3
2006 #110South Carolina 365 1142 3.1 37 13 95.2
LSU's backups < USC's starters
FYI your one of my favorite posters but I just don't get the Coach Elliot love sometimes. Les Miles smelled his arse out from a mile away and our only glaring weakness. Feel free to fill in when Coach Elliot got here. I'm pretty sure production went up solely because of him and not because we had the best running back in the game.
2013 #83 South Carolina 491 1800 3.7 64 19 138.5
2012 #27 South Carolina 553 2497 4.5 68 28 192.1
2011 #40 South Carolina 522 2161 4.1 58 26 154.4
2010 #86 South Carolina 435 1576 3.6 50 12 121.2
2009 #108South Carolina 417 1223 2.9 50 7 94.1
2008 #102South Carolina 382 1364 3.6 29 16 113.7
2007 #46 South Carolina 414 1876 4.5 88 19 144.3
2006 #110South Carolina 365 1142 3.1 37 13 95.2
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 10:42 pm to Wholelottacock
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This post was edited on 2/5/13 at 10:52 pm
Posted on 2/6/13 at 3:06 pm to Wholelottacock
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Wholelottacock Posted:
2013 #83 South Carolina 491 1800 3.7 64 19 138.5
2012 #27 South Carolina 553 2497 4.5 68 28 192.1
2011 #40 South Carolina 522 2161 4.1 58 26 154.4
2010 #86 South Carolina 435 1576 3.6 50 12 121.2
2009 #108South Carolina 417 1223 2.9 50 7 94.1
2008 #102South Carolina 382 1364 3.6 29 16 113.7
2007 #46 South Carolina 414 1876 4.5 88 19 144.3
2006 #110South Carolina 365 1142 3.1 37 13 95.2
Wow what a troll with an obvious agenda....he posts the information HIMSELF, but is too blinded and focused on his agenda to see the stats work against his argument:
2012 #89 South Carolina 491 1800 3.7 64 19 138.5 (13th in SEC)
2011 #25 South Carolina 553 2497 4.5 68 28 192.1 (3rd in SEC)
2010 #60 South Carolina 522 2161 4.1 58 26 154.4 (8th in SEC)
Elliot joins for the 2010 season
2009 #91 South Carolina 435 1576 3.6 50 12 121.2 (12th in SEC dead last)
Wolford joins our staff for the 2009 season
2008 #112 South Carolina 417 1223 2.9 50 7 94.1 (12th in SEC dead last)
2007 #101 South Carolina 382 1364 3.6 29 16 113.7 (12th in SEC dead last)
2006 #49 South Carolina 414 1876 4.5 88 19 144.3 (6th in SEC)
2005 #108 South Carolina 365 1142 3.1 37 13 95.2 (11th in SEC)
Does it not matter that the top 2 and 3 of the top 4 rushing offenses under Spurrier came with Elliot as our OL coach? That the only years we have averaged 30+ points per game under the Offensive Genius Steve Spurrier were the past 3 years, all with Elliot on our staff?
And YES having Lattimore played a huge role in those improved offenses, but he was also missing for 11 games over the past 2 seasons and our offense basically took it in stride.
Our 2014 class is going to be a smaller class....we do not have a lot of seniors graduating after next season, and will be short-changed 2-3 scholarships to work with. We may have a class of somewhere around 15, and even that will require early departures for the NFL or other attrition to the roster.
The prospects we bring in for the next class will be the highest regarded we can get.....all the prospects we rate high on our board will be the first come-first serve for offers.
As was mentioned, we're in great standing with 2 OL prospects - one of which is a SC product - that are higher on our board. These were guys we've been recruiting and targeting as long if not longer than Hearn. They are both VERY high on USC right now. I don't know how many OL we bring in - possibly only 3 for next class. We may end up recruiting Hearn harder down the line if someone like Brown or someone else drops us.
But overall Elliot has been doing a heads and shoulders better job of recruiting the position that Hunt ever did, and our offense every year has been improving. Can't take this past seasons run offense without considering that our RB position was shredded by injury. We still didn't finish last in the conference for '12, something Elliot's predecessors accomplished for 3 years in a row....
Posted on 2/6/13 at 3:17 pm to ConwayGamecock
Also check out the rushing TDs for each season: the first 5 seasons under Hunt and Wolford we averaged 13.2 rushing TDs per season. Marcus almost averaged that himself missing 11 games entirely to injury (12.7 TDs per season). But the offense averaged 24.3 rushing TDs per season, which means that even subtracting Lattimore's huge % of carries he had during his time, we still almost averaged the TD numbers Hunt and Wolford did in the 5 years prior.
Also averaged better yds per carry under Elliott...
Also averaged better yds per carry under Elliott...
Posted on 2/6/13 at 3:34 pm to ConwayGamecock
Agreed. Solid stats, it's hard to argue factually against those numbers. Elliot has done a great job with a shite hand he was given.
Posted on 2/6/13 at 6:41 pm to CockInYourEar
Okay first off this thread was started to shed light on how we made no effort to even bait the hook for a kid that wanted to be a Gamecock. We did literally nothing at all. So only time will tell. If he turns into a player for Clemson then we know our staff screwed the pooch on this one. If not then we know whey he got 0 interest from us.
Second "Troll", really thats what your goliath brain told you to spew out on instinct. You have more posts in threads but I've likely started a lot more than you genius. In fact Cock in YOur Ear and myself are the only reason new content hits the sad excuse for a board. We literally have less action than Vandy. Also Trolls don't get custom hand painted Gamecock coolers made and post pictures of. They typically come into a thread or start one just to incite a riot.
Now back to the numbers. Sure a simpleton could look at those numbers and think Maui Wowy Elliot is awesome. Or he could think outside of the box and wonder if those numbers are better simply because of Connor Shaw, Marcus Lattimore and Wilds. In fact one could point out that with the loss of those two backs. Davis was unsuccessful at simply being plugged in and rushing for 100+ a game like his predecessors did. Which would lead me to believe it was the runners not the system Watson!
On to Cock In Yo Ear, you've heard about a bird in the hand I'm sure. I've learned as a Gamecock to be more letdown than surprised by kids were "in the lead" for. All I'm saying is we've got plenty of dead wait drinking Gatorade we could have cut loose to give the kid a shot since he did want to be here and obviously had an upside.
I vote Cock In Your Ear to be our Chrystal Ball Know All on recruiting. Why you ask? Well because he knows his recruiting info ahead of the rest of us and he's not a Vag like Cover Two about it over on CockTalk. I'm being serious about this you should start a consistent recruiting thread.
Second "Troll", really thats what your goliath brain told you to spew out on instinct. You have more posts in threads but I've likely started a lot more than you genius. In fact Cock in YOur Ear and myself are the only reason new content hits the sad excuse for a board. We literally have less action than Vandy. Also Trolls don't get custom hand painted Gamecock coolers made and post pictures of. They typically come into a thread or start one just to incite a riot.
Now back to the numbers. Sure a simpleton could look at those numbers and think Maui Wowy Elliot is awesome. Or he could think outside of the box and wonder if those numbers are better simply because of Connor Shaw, Marcus Lattimore and Wilds. In fact one could point out that with the loss of those two backs. Davis was unsuccessful at simply being plugged in and rushing for 100+ a game like his predecessors did. Which would lead me to believe it was the runners not the system Watson!
On to Cock In Yo Ear, you've heard about a bird in the hand I'm sure. I've learned as a Gamecock to be more letdown than surprised by kids were "in the lead" for. All I'm saying is we've got plenty of dead wait drinking Gatorade we could have cut loose to give the kid a shot since he did want to be here and obviously had an upside.
I vote Cock In Your Ear to be our Chrystal Ball Know All on recruiting. Why you ask? Well because he knows his recruiting info ahead of the rest of us and he's not a Vag like Cover Two about it over on CockTalk. I'm being serious about this you should start a consistent recruiting thread.
This post was edited on 2/6/13 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 2/6/13 at 8:22 pm to Wholelottacock
I think coach Elliot has done a great job of coaching the talent he has as well as recruiting. We're in pretty good position for two top 10 tackles next season and we already have some talent in Shell, Robinson etc plus Rodgers signed today. May have been a numbers issue.
Not a big deal in my opinion. We struggled on the oline this year because we had 3 new starters. Next year we will have 4 returning starters plus Matulis and Gibson with starting experience
Not a big deal in my opinion. We struggled on the oline this year because we had 3 new starters. Next year we will have 4 returning starters plus Matulis and Gibson with starting experience
Posted on 2/6/13 at 10:10 pm to Wholelottacock
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Wholelottacock
IMO, the whole thing involving Taylor is very similar to the Quinshad Davis recruitment. In the Davis case, we were only going to take a select # of WRs for that class because we had substantial depth.
Also, we seem to have a coaching staff policy where we typically do not give out offers to in-state prospects unless we've had a chance to personally observe them and run them through drills such as in a camp or whatever, before offering. I know for a fact that Clemson does not have such a policy: if it's an in-state prospect and seems to be highly regarded, they'll often offer sight-unseen and live with the consequences to their depth chart.
We don't seem to do that: we don't want to end up with prospects that are bad fits for our program, and we don't want to pull offers from in-state prospects for obvious reasons of bad PR with local HS coaches, etc.
With Davis, he was a highly regarded WR that was in-state, but we wanted him to come work out for us. He couldn't do it the off-season before his Sr. season because he was injured. We finally relented a bit, but needed him to commit or the offer would be spent. He waited, and others committed to us. Davis will now play against us in the season-opener next season...
I know our coaches haven't gotten a chance to evaluate Hearn in person yet, with his still being a junior. I'm sure we'd invite him to some of our camps, but it looks like he just wanted an offer site-unseen. We were recruiting him and visiting his HS during the process, so I know we had some interest in him.
If he wanted us to offer him before we felt ready to, with our next recruiting class going to be very small and very selective, then I wish him well at Clemson for 11 of the 12 games a season he plays....
Posted on 2/6/13 at 11:19 pm to Wholelottacock
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Davis was unsuccessful at simply being plugged in and rushing for 100+ a game like his predecessors did. Which would lead me to believe it was the runners not the system Watson!
Davis got limited carries behind Latt and Miles last year. He still had over 50 carries and avg'd 5.3 yards per carry...which was actually a higher avg than Latt's last season.
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I vote Cock In Your Ear to be our Chrystal Ball Know All on recruiting. Why you ask? Well because he knows his recruiting info ahead of the rest of us and he's not a Vag like Cover Two about it over on CockTalk. I'm being serious about this you should start a consistent recruiting thread.
I don't have enough time or expertise. I don't have a program connection and most recruiting info on here that I posted I saw on other sites. I will continue to contribute when I see something hasn't been posted and I can.
Posted on 2/7/13 at 8:16 pm to Wholelottacock
We have exactly two recruiters on staff, and you are bashing one of them... How do you know jr isnt the one who decides who is a take?
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