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re: Congratulations to the 1964 National Champions

Posted on 9/22/21 at 9:46 pm to
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 9/22/21 at 9:46 pm to
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I have no beef with the UPI/AP polls...what Alabama fails to recognize is the fact that during this period (I know, I lived and covered sports during this time), the two service wire polls were not the only major polls and were not the only polls recognized by the NCAA.



You are full of shite because the NCAA has never in history "recognized" anything in regards to national championships.

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Regardless of how the news wire polls were determined, the other polls were also highly recognized and whichever team won the CONSENSUS of all the polls was generally looked upon as the one who more rightly could claim the title. The NCAA allows any school that has been voted #1 in any final poll to claim the national title.


The NCAA does allow any school to claim whatever they want...because once again the NCAA is not involved in the process.


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Hence, Alabama has the right to claim 1964. My beef is that Alabama people don't like to "share" the title and try to claim them as their own. Most national titles are SHARED. Also, Alabama claims some national titles that most schools wouldn't touch w/a 100-ft pole if they were in the same position (exception is Tennessee for 1967 -0- sheesh!).



Aside from 1941, this is bullshite. And 1941 is a math poll only 5 years off the AP. I think it's a bullshite claim, but is not even close to as bad as what many claim - Including 1964 Arkansas.

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Example: 1941 (finished 9-2), 1973 (lost to Notre Dame in bowl game, ND consensus champ), 1978 (lost to USC)


Yeah, it wasn't a problem for the NC to lose a bowl game until Alabama did it. And in 1978, USC went on to lose to a worse team than Alabama. And in the final bowl game, #2 Alabama beat #1 Penn St, while USC played a mediocre Michigan team in the Rose Bowl. I think #3 vs #6 or something.

It's funny people want to ignore USC losing to an unranked team. And if they hadn't forced everyone out of the Rose Bowl, they could have played a better team.

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Hence, Alabama has the right to claim 1964. My beef is that Alabama people don't like to "share" the title and try to claim them as their own. Most national titles are SHARED. Also, Alabama claims some national titles that most schools wouldn't touch w/a 100-ft pole if they were in the same position (exception is Tennessee for 1967 -0- sheesh!).



A shared title is where one team wins the AP and another wins the Coaches/UPI. Not just any poll or ranking system.
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