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Posted on 8/26/21 at 1:22 pm to
Posted by Diego Ricardo
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Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 8/26/21 at 1:22 pm to
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And yet we are. Let some civilian Americans die over there and a lot of needles will be moving. Even the liberal media is taking shots at Joe over his handling of this. Our allies are none too happy.



The Democratic Dove is mostly an anachronism. In some respects the thing true liberals - centrist types - hate more than anything is poorly prosecuted war. All those newly blue parts of Virginia live off the fat of using places like Afghanistan to funnel taxpayer money out of the country and eventually back into Northern Virginia and other places that are essentially regional economies propped up by the DOD.

Probably the only thing I really stand up for Biden on was getting the hell out of Afghanistan. Anyone who is trying to sell you that there was some kind of exit out of there that wasn't going to be chaotic is basically selling you ocean front property in Arizona. You don't just cut off a big spigot of money from an economy and remove the security from collaborators with our government without some chaos. I just have a hard time caring about that mess. If China occupied the US for 20 years, I'd hope all the buttholes of the collaborators puckered up when their daddy leaves.

Also fwiw, the vast majority of American civilians still in the country at this point are dipshit civilians who went over there and stuck their dick in an Afghani woman and they can't leave as easily because their family isn't naturalized citizens of the United States.
This post was edited on 8/26/21 at 1:26 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58952 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 3:14 pm to
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Probably the only thing I really stand up for Biden on was getting the hell out of Afghanistan.


Thing is, Biden didn't get us out. The treaty and agreements were signed while Trump was in office. The only thing Biden had to do was the withdrawal part. Pull out all civilians first then pull out the military. Instead he started pulling out the military before the civilians so we have now what we have. A mess. We have civilians trapped there without enough military presence to protect them.

Not sure if you have seen, but it is falling apart fast right now. At least 12 military dead.

ETA
Clarification,,,Obama promised to be out of Afghanistan by the end of 2014. He failed to make that deadline (Probably a good decision) then Trump continued. The problem came because Biden accelerated the draw down and well....it's a bit of a mess to put it lightly.

ETAA
In 2021, a year that will mark the twentieth anniversary of the entry of U.S. troops into
Afghanistan, U.S. forces there are at the lowest level since 2001 due to the Trump
Administration’s reduction of U.S. forces to 2,500 and its conditional commitment to the
Taliban to withdraw fully by April 2021. Members of Congress have expressed a range
of views about the drawdown and are likely to continue to closely scrutinize the
drawdown’s impact on a range of U.S. policy interests.

Congressional Research Service
This post was edited on 8/26/21 at 3:26 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22852 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 3:28 pm to
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true liberals


True liberals are small government types.



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