re: Florida has the best Governor

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And yet we are. Let some civilian Americans die over there and a lot of needles will be moving. Even the liberal media is taking shots at Joe over his handling of this. Our allies are none too happy.

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The Democratic Dove is mostly an anachronism. In some respects the thing true liberals - centrist types - hate more than anything is poorly prosecuted war. All those newly blue parts of Virginia live off the fat of using places like Afghanistan to funnel taxpayer money out of the country and eventually back into Northern Virginia and other places that are essentially regional economies propped up by the DOD.

Probably the only thing I really stand up for Biden on was getting the hell out of Afghanistan. Anyone who is trying to sell you that there was some kind of exit out of there that wasn't going to be chaotic is basically selling you ocean front property in Arizona. You don't just cut off a big spigot of money from an economy and remove the security from collaborators with our government without some chaos. I just have a hard time caring about that mess. If China occupied the US for 20 years, I'd hope all the buttholes of the collaborators puckered up when their daddy leaves.

Also fwiw, the vast majority of American civilians still in the country at this point are dipshit civilians who went over there and stuck their dick in an Afghani woman and they can't leave as easily because their family isn't naturalized citizens of the United States.