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re: Our University is not woke. Will remove Confederate plaques, study building names

Posted on 6/10/20 at 3:19 pm to
Posted by InGAButLoveBama
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 6/10/20 at 3:19 pm to
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re: Our University is not woke. Will remove Confederate plaques, study building namesPosted on 6/10/20 at 3:14 pm to InGAButLoveBama
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You want to join the anti White anti Southern bandwagon.
Recognizing that the CSA seceded over slavery, the Confederate cause was not just, and the Civil Rights protesters of the Fifties and Sixties were right, doesn't make me anti-White or anti-Southern. There is a lot more to Southern culture and White people in general than the four years that the CSA existed.
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I used to be even more vciously anti White and anti Southern than you, till I grew up, and observed how Northerners talked about us, and I realized that no amount of apologies or betraying my heritage would absolve me of their hang ups.
Let me get this straight: You became the sort of person who defends George Wallace, makes "desegregation was actually bad" arguments, apologizes for the CSA, and favorably compares slavery to paid child labor because Northerners hurt your feelings? And you did this when you were an adult?

I hope you make the decision to access the help you clearly need. I'm done helping you shite up the board at this point.


Slavery was NOT the only motive for secession. Already been over this. IF you think about all of the evil done by the US govt over the year, the evil still being done in the Mideast (our support AQ and ISIS in Syria takes the cake), our support for the Saudi massacres in Yemen, the Israeli occupation and ethnic cleansing of Palestine, how in the world can you sit in judgement of the CSA?

Unlike you, I can accept that my nation is very imperfect and still wave my US flag. I do the same with my CSA rebel flag, especially because it was used by the soldiers who gave their lives to defend my region from war criminals.

The Civil Rights protestors were right about a lot of things and wrong to assume that races had to be forcibly integrated. I don't think that helped Blacks and it sure did not seem to help the crime stats. Of course there were many variables, but too often, racism is the only variable blamed, and it has just made the problems worse.
This post was edited on 6/10/20 at 3:22 pm
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/10/20 at 3:22 pm to
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how in the world can you sit in judgement of the CSA?
It's not that hard to sit in judgement of both. The CSA was only around for 4 years and all it did was fight a war primarily over the right to own slaves.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 6/10/20 at 4:12 pm to
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Slavery was NOT the only motive for secession.


It was THE motivation for secession. Just listen to the words of Mississippi in their declaration when they seceded.

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin.

It was the second damn sentence. The whole thing is a justification for slavery.

Second sentence from Georgia's "For the last ten years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non-slave-holding confederate States with reference to the subject of African slavery."

Hell Virginia's deceleration is only two and a half paragraphs and the only thing it mentions is slavery.
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