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The problem is you are mixing arguments. "Good" does not necessarily mean winning a NC every fricking year.

So, I guess this all depends on your definition of "good." So, what is "good" in your opinion?
(careful how you define that )

I hear Ags on here (and the ones in my family) talk about the admission of females to A&M as being a defining moment for A&M football. Ostensibly indicating that since that time, A&M football is better than it was before that point. But are you?

I don't think having females on campus has anything to do with a football program's success, or more to the point of this thread, A&M's.

What metric would you use to support that idea? I threw out the idea of national titles because it's a pretty glaring one. In the 50 years or so before letting women in, A&M had 3 national titles. In the 50 years or so since letting women in, you have none.

And to your point, I didn't say you have to win national titles to be "good." Obviously teams and programs that don't win titles every year are good.

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Posted by KaiserSoze99

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Posted on 1/9/19 at 3:38 pm to ibldprplgld

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I hear Ags on here (and the ones in my family) talk about the admission of females to A&M as being a defining moment for A&M football. Ostensibly indicating that since that time, A&M football is better than it was before that point. But are you?

Am I saying that it changed things? Maybe.

It certainly was not a recruiting advantage to have no frickable females withing 90 miles of campus. We can argue whether it was a disadvantage.

We could also argue about whether mandatory participation in military training and lifestyle was a disadvantage.

Having a large, controlling university with lots of resources having an unlimited amount of scholarships was probably not an advantage to any of the other schools in the state.

There are many additional factors and measurables to consider, but it's at least a correlation with major improvements in A&M's program. The admission of women, removal of mandatory participation in military training/lifestyle, scholarship limits, and A&M becoming a university, rather than just a military-style Ag college, all them fall within about a 10 year period between 1965 and 1975.

What likely affect did all of those changes have?

See for yourself and decide.

A&M was ranked in the Top 25 only 3 times from the start of WW2-1942 all the way to 1972. Guess which coach got those three rankings.

Notice how things started to change around the mid-70s.

Now, that may be a simple matter of correlation, but it sure the frick does not look like it.

You decide.

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