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re: Woke Thread of the Week: Do you know Yakub?
Posted on 1/5/19 at 6:59 pm to KSGamecock
Posted on 1/5/19 at 6:59 pm to KSGamecock
I remember reading about all that shite on the Wu Tang fanboards circa 2005.
Millions of people believe this shite.
Millions of people believe this shite.
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Posted on 1/6/19 at 1:46 am to deeprig9
I find the Nation of Islam fascinating, especially its history.
The way they say the shahada, the Muslim confession of faith, is complete apostasy...Muslims say “There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger” but they say “There is no god but Allah and Fard is his messenger” and stuff like that. Not every time, but I watched a service they have on their site and several of their speakers said it that way...that shite would get you killed in many parts of the Muslim world.
Their “mosques” also hold their services on Sunday rather than Friday, they sit in pews, they aren’t gender separated, and judging by some of their outfits I doubt they’re doing the whole washing ritual thingy.
The whole appearance and disappearance of their founder is just weird.
The Yakub stuff is really out there and it’s part of what drove Malcolm X away from it, he went on Hajj and everyone called bullshite.
The other thing that gets me is that Islam wasn’t this great religion that their pre-slave ancestors voluntarily accepted or anything. Most of their ancestors wouldn’t have been Muslims, some would have sure, but a comparable number would have been Catholic from Kongo. It’s not some shining alternative to Christianity, the ones that were Muslim would have been converted in a similar way that the Christians were.
How NOI members don’t show the slightest bit of agency and fact check even a fraction of this shite is a genuine mystery to me. Their religion isn’t Islam in the slightest, it’s just weird and culty. They still cling to it even after Elijah Muhammad’s son came out and disavowed it and moved to traditional Sunni Islam, even after Malcolm X did the same.
Also a ton of them are in to dianetics...wild.
The way they say the shahada, the Muslim confession of faith, is complete apostasy...Muslims say “There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger” but they say “There is no god but Allah and Fard is his messenger” and stuff like that. Not every time, but I watched a service they have on their site and several of their speakers said it that way...that shite would get you killed in many parts of the Muslim world.
Their “mosques” also hold their services on Sunday rather than Friday, they sit in pews, they aren’t gender separated, and judging by some of their outfits I doubt they’re doing the whole washing ritual thingy.
The whole appearance and disappearance of their founder is just weird.
The Yakub stuff is really out there and it’s part of what drove Malcolm X away from it, he went on Hajj and everyone called bullshite.
The other thing that gets me is that Islam wasn’t this great religion that their pre-slave ancestors voluntarily accepted or anything. Most of their ancestors wouldn’t have been Muslims, some would have sure, but a comparable number would have been Catholic from Kongo. It’s not some shining alternative to Christianity, the ones that were Muslim would have been converted in a similar way that the Christians were.
How NOI members don’t show the slightest bit of agency and fact check even a fraction of this shite is a genuine mystery to me. Their religion isn’t Islam in the slightest, it’s just weird and culty. They still cling to it even after Elijah Muhammad’s son came out and disavowed it and moved to traditional Sunni Islam, even after Malcolm X did the same.
Also a ton of them are in to dianetics...wild.
This post was edited on 1/6/19 at 1:53 am
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