re: Who wants in the SEC more, Clemson or Klahoma?

Sheesh ... trying to have a conversation with you is like talking to a farleftwingliberalnutjob. You just keep-on spouting your taterhead talking points and believing your own bullshite regardless of the reality.

We're not talking any one single program in this thread ... or, at least, that is what this thread has evolved in-to.

I gave Clemzin props for having an SEC atmosphere, level of talent and fanbase. Financially Clemzin is also doing very well. FSU is next level in the ACC in terms of facilities and fan support. After that the ACC falls off a cliff.

In the SEC everyone fills stadiums, has money, is constantly upgrading facilities in an effort to keep-up with the arms race.

With regard to the past 25 years of bowl records ... it's not even close. The SEC regularly plays teams ranked higher, or finished higher in their conference standing ... and the SEC still wins at a higher level, post season, than any other conference ... historically - over the past 25 years.

So please, stop playing word games ... it makes you appear to be the ignorant, uninformed, living vicariously through your sheep-humping program that you probably are slick.

I'll type this again and go slow for your benefit.

Clemzin.could.not.weather.a.yearly.SEC.schedule.and.hope.for.the.same.success.they.are.realizing.in.a.fraud.of.a.football.conference.that.is.the.ACC.Period.

Clemzin should be happy to stay in the ACC.

The ESPN money thing?

If ESPN fails to honor their contract then Disney has to pay-up. And past that the SEC will always have a strong presence and product on whatever network bids for their primetime games ... and the SEC will run it's own network once the current contract expires between ESPN and the SEC Network. That's the model for all the conferences in the future and ESPN knows it ... they're basically training conferences to do it now by requiring conferences and programs to produce their own inventory for broadcast. Hell, even talent is being pulled from local pools and via private contracts these days, so the process is already well underway.

Streaming is next. By the time the current contracts expire everyone will be live-streaming and inventorying everything on the cloud.