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Posted on 10/22/17 at 8:13 pm to slayerxing
Posted on 10/22/17 at 8:13 pm to slayerxing
As usual. Zero rebuttal worth any substance
Because everything i said is true
Because everything i said is true
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Posted on 10/22/17 at 11:08 pm to dbuchanon
That's been Slayer, though, he's pretty bitter these days and has absolutely no substance.
8th in recruiting for an average in the last five years. (Florida was about to slip into the 20's/30's, easily.)
50 - 17 over the last five years for Mark Richt. (28 - 21 for Muschamp in four, thank God he didn't have a fifth.)
17 juniors/seniors on offense and defense who are all Richt players. (2016 we were starting 13 Underclassmen, just ONE year after Muschamp left because of roster mismanagement.)
Georgia fans, and even some Gators fans don't want to admit that Georgia was in great shape when Kirby came in and that Florida was in terrible shape.
Not half-way bad, not decent, it was left in horrible shape. What's incredible, though.
Is that even though McElwain took over a team with considerably less wins and more losses, a team that was recruiting much worse (because it was only on one side of the ball), a team that was left without upperclassmen, that had six scholarship offensive linemen -- still managed to beat Georgia by double digits.
If that isn't your idea of a decent coach, I don't know what is.
This year we have 21 Scholarship athletes on the injury report -- some of them might play, but we have no idea. We shouldn't win with those numbers, but if we're within 10 points he's a miracle worker.
8th in recruiting for an average in the last five years. (Florida was about to slip into the 20's/30's, easily.)
50 - 17 over the last five years for Mark Richt. (28 - 21 for Muschamp in four, thank God he didn't have a fifth.)
17 juniors/seniors on offense and defense who are all Richt players. (2016 we were starting 13 Underclassmen, just ONE year after Muschamp left because of roster mismanagement.)
Georgia fans, and even some Gators fans don't want to admit that Georgia was in great shape when Kirby came in and that Florida was in terrible shape.
Not half-way bad, not decent, it was left in horrible shape. What's incredible, though.
Is that even though McElwain took over a team with considerably less wins and more losses, a team that was recruiting much worse (because it was only on one side of the ball), a team that was left without upperclassmen, that had six scholarship offensive linemen -- still managed to beat Georgia by double digits.
If that isn't your idea of a decent coach, I don't know what is.
This year we have 21 Scholarship athletes on the injury report -- some of them might play, but we have no idea. We shouldn't win with those numbers, but if we're within 10 points he's a miracle worker.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 7:48 am to dbuchanon
Why has our offense not improved at all in 2.5 years under Mac ? In 2.5 years he hasn’t been able to improve Muschamps offense at all . You guys have nothing but excuses. If you hired me to do a job for you and in my first 3 years I didn’t do any better then the guy before me that you fired , would you not fired me ?
What did you expect from the team this year ? 10+ wins ? Lol
What did you expect from the team this year ? 10+ wins ? Lol
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 7:50 am
Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:28 pm to dbuchanon
You and Straw are totally full of shite.
Literally everything I say, there is another excuse.
Fine, here is some substance, assholes.
Kirby Smart was hired on December 6, 2015, 2 days later in the season than McElwain the year before, who was hired on December 4, 2014. Both had late starts in recruiting.
Even with that late start, Kirby Smart in his first few months as a head coach put together a Top 6 recruiting class, with 14 players at 4 star or higher, and 3 five star. Now yes, he walked in and some of these guys were already committed. But he held it together. Big time.
McElwain, on the other hand, in his 2nd season, landed the #12 ranked class, with only 9 players ranked composite 4 star or higher. So even coming in with an incredibly short window, Kirby out-recruited McElwain.
Now, McElwain whips Georgia on the field, so we say, OK, not a big deal.
2017 recruiting class - Georgia 20 4 star or higher, 2 5 star, vs. Florida only getting 11. No five stars again. Hmmm.... OK, Kirby is just a better recruiter I guess, but let's see how he does on the field...
Georgia 2016 stats:
Total O: 384.7
Total D: 327.5
Georgia 2017 stats:
Total O: 454.3
Total D: 252.6
What I see here is HUGE improvement on offense and defense from year 1 to year 2 for Kirby. And he is doing this WITHOUT HIS STARTING QB - WHO WAS INJURED EARLY. You like to point this out as an excuse for Florida, so there it is for Kirby. Difference is, he has a 5 star QB to absorb the blow, and UF DOES NOT.
Now look at Florida between year 1, year 2, and year 3, which should give them a huge edge over Georgia because of extra time in the system.
Florida 2015 stats:
Total O: 334.0
Total D: 310.2
Florida 2016 stats:
Total O: 344.0
Total D: 293.0
Florida 2017 stats:
Total O: 351.2
Total D: 354.8
Check that out... Florida has not improved much on offense and the defense has declined tremendously in 3 years.
Bottom line, this is what you expect to see in a championship coach. They come in, change the culture, and see appreciable improvement in year 2. Kirby came in to a lot of talent, sure, similar to Meyer with Zook, but he had a shite OL, a TRUE FRESMAN QB, and a bunch of players that had done nothing but be mediocre for a bunch of years. Now in year 2, he ONCE AGAIN has a true freshman QB, but that guy has thrown 12 TD in 7 games, while UF has only thrown 4 as a team... Wait a minute... which coach is supposed to be the offensive guru again?
Mac also had a lot of talent when he got here. 15 players drafted in 2 years vs. only 6 at Georgia. Most on defense, and that is exactly why Mac was able to ride the defense to SEC east titles in year 1 and year 2. He had talent, and he scraped by. With appreciably less talent on the roster, a little bit of bad luck with suspensions and injuries has SUNK THE PROGRAM.
Now, despite ALL OF THIS, Mac has a chance this weekend to right the ship. A win against UGA means they would have to win out to win the division, which isn't a guarantee. I doubt Mac can pull it off, considering the trajectory of both teams, but it's worth noting that he still has a chance.
Is that enough fricking substance assholes?
Literally everything I say, there is another excuse.
Fine, here is some substance, assholes.
Kirby Smart was hired on December 6, 2015, 2 days later in the season than McElwain the year before, who was hired on December 4, 2014. Both had late starts in recruiting.
Even with that late start, Kirby Smart in his first few months as a head coach put together a Top 6 recruiting class, with 14 players at 4 star or higher, and 3 five star. Now yes, he walked in and some of these guys were already committed. But he held it together. Big time.
McElwain, on the other hand, in his 2nd season, landed the #12 ranked class, with only 9 players ranked composite 4 star or higher. So even coming in with an incredibly short window, Kirby out-recruited McElwain.
Now, McElwain whips Georgia on the field, so we say, OK, not a big deal.
2017 recruiting class - Georgia 20 4 star or higher, 2 5 star, vs. Florida only getting 11. No five stars again. Hmmm.... OK, Kirby is just a better recruiter I guess, but let's see how he does on the field...
Georgia 2016 stats:
Total O: 384.7
Total D: 327.5
Georgia 2017 stats:
Total O: 454.3
Total D: 252.6
What I see here is HUGE improvement on offense and defense from year 1 to year 2 for Kirby. And he is doing this WITHOUT HIS STARTING QB - WHO WAS INJURED EARLY. You like to point this out as an excuse for Florida, so there it is for Kirby. Difference is, he has a 5 star QB to absorb the blow, and UF DOES NOT.
Now look at Florida between year 1, year 2, and year 3, which should give them a huge edge over Georgia because of extra time in the system.
Florida 2015 stats:
Total O: 334.0
Total D: 310.2
Florida 2016 stats:
Total O: 344.0
Total D: 293.0
Florida 2017 stats:
Total O: 351.2
Total D: 354.8
Check that out... Florida has not improved much on offense and the defense has declined tremendously in 3 years.
Bottom line, this is what you expect to see in a championship coach. They come in, change the culture, and see appreciable improvement in year 2. Kirby came in to a lot of talent, sure, similar to Meyer with Zook, but he had a shite OL, a TRUE FRESMAN QB, and a bunch of players that had done nothing but be mediocre for a bunch of years. Now in year 2, he ONCE AGAIN has a true freshman QB, but that guy has thrown 12 TD in 7 games, while UF has only thrown 4 as a team... Wait a minute... which coach is supposed to be the offensive guru again?
Mac also had a lot of talent when he got here. 15 players drafted in 2 years vs. only 6 at Georgia. Most on defense, and that is exactly why Mac was able to ride the defense to SEC east titles in year 1 and year 2. He had talent, and he scraped by. With appreciably less talent on the roster, a little bit of bad luck with suspensions and injuries has SUNK THE PROGRAM.
Now, despite ALL OF THIS, Mac has a chance this weekend to right the ship. A win against UGA means they would have to win out to win the division, which isn't a guarantee. I doubt Mac can pull it off, considering the trajectory of both teams, but it's worth noting that he still has a chance.
Is that enough fricking substance assholes?
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