How bout that

They didn't get beat very badly, they play in harder leagues, etc. etc..

There are guys here who are just flatout not going to like McElwain.

Stats matter unless we're talking about a Freshman well on his way to a thousand year season without playing against an FCS.

There's no excuse not to execute on offense after losing your two best receivers, your best quarterback and your best running back. Losing players is normal, having ten years of bad offensive recruiting is McElwain's fault.

But, his freshmen look better than almost anyone we've had since before McElwain's tenure.

The defense, while being young, plays with a lot of heart and flies all over the field.

Gardner actually made some great tackles.

When recruits have better things to say about our program than our fans.

I like that stat because I now hate Harbaugh but his 24 wins have been way more impressive. He's had his team rolling the last two years just killing some teams.

Harbaugh raped and pillaged this team just a few weeks ago. I don't think you're making a compelling case. Ask 100 fans who would they rather have as a coach and you would be lucky to find 2 that would take butters...

Dantonio on the other hand does more with 2 and 3*s. They improve from game to game. He competed and beat UM this week, something this team couldn't.

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He competed and beat UM this week, something this team couldn't.

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He had his whole team too, didnt he?

Are you really going to play the "who's hurt more" game? This is big boy football, not "I deserve a trophy because I showed up." No one wants to hear that shite. Excuses are like assholes. Everybody has one.

Suspensions? That's on the coach IMO. You better have a fricking pulse of the team from day to day and not let stupid shite happen to kill your program. Multiple players suspended for dumb shite is an indictment on McElwain, even though he didn't skim CC's himself. It's called institutional control and he certainly doesn't have any? Calloway has been a frick up for years. How do you allow him to continue to frick up??? That's a coach problem no matter what excuse you want to give him. Grier is another problem. All points back to one man.

So Mac vs Harbaugh 74-24.

Mac same record at this point as Muschamp. No wins vs FSU.

I wouldn't gloat about how bad Harbaugh is with our current situation.

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Are you really going to play the "who's hurt more" game? This is big boy football, not "I deserve a trophy because I showed up." No one wants to hear that shite. Excuses are like assholes. Everybody has one. 

Suspensions? That's on the coach IMO. You better have a fricking pulse of the team from day to day and not let stupid shite happen to kill your program. Multiple players suspended for dumb shite is an indictment on McElwain, even though he didn't skim CC's himself. It's called institutional control and he certainly doesn't have any? Calloway has been a frick up for years. How do you allow him to continue to frick up??? That's a coach problem no matter what excuse you want to give him. Grier is another problem. All points back to one man.

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Amen. Preach

You guys are f u cking retarded

No team missing their starting QB, WRs and starting a frosh secondary is going to go undefeated or anywhere near it.

Hell we had Tebow, and replacing what 8-9 starters on defense lost games because of it.

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So who's fault is it when you don't hold your players accountable?

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Last i checked they were suspended, before our biggest game to start the season..

Deflecting again?

You said he didnt hold them accountable yet theyve been suspended since they got caught. Now what?