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re: "Never say never" - The Dabo Speaks
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:05 pm to Othello
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:05 pm to Othello
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He created those expectations at Clemson. That's a lot different than following in other's footsteps.
Also you can't compare the recent success at Clemson and it's 2 overall natinal titles to Alabama's 16 natty's and Saban's current unprecedented run.
Otherwise, you're saying the expectations at Clemson are just as high. Which is just plain wrong. It would be closer if Bowden had won 4 natty's and then Dabo came in and did what he's doing.
According to the Clemson fans in this thread they expect to play for championships every year moving forward. How is that any different than Alabama fans?
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I didn't criticize his coaching style at all. He just reminds me of Les because he's goofy as hell. But his players love him, so that's fine.
He's not nearly as goofy now as he was 7 years ago. Is he passionate? Hell yeah. He's certainly reaping the benefits of that passion on the recruiting trail right now. He's got 2 of the top 3 players in the country committed and one is a Tennessee legacy.
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You're assuming that he would compete for one often or win one at Bama. We don't know that for sure. If he replaced Saban, it is likely that he'd win, or compete often for them, but we don't know that for certain.
He is worshipped at Clemson for being their best coach ever. He would have to do a lot more than what he's done at Clemson, to get anywhere near the respect at Bama that he has there.
I remember when Bear retired. Nobody wanted that job and Bear was losing 3 games a year at the end and still no one wanted to step into that.
Then Ray Perkins stepped in and immediately got shite on.
And everyone loved Shula at first, till he started losing games. Obviously, Dabo is an infinitely better coach than Shula, and Shula had to deal with no spring practice and probation. But Bama fans turn quickly on people when they aren't winning the vast majority of their games.
Nobody loved Shula at first. He was a deer in headlights. They loved him in 2005 when he started out 10-0, but he didn't show anything near the consistency or recruiting prowess that Dabo has.
Winning 10 games in a season once over four years won't cut it at any of the Top 15 programs in the country. If not Dabo, who would you like to see Alabama hire as an Alabama fan?
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:27 pm to TideSaint
I would love for Dabo to come home. Only he and Meyer (who is great, but I don't want at Bama) could come close IMO to what Saban is doing. Herman would be great too, but he has his dream job, though with enough money LSU could have had him for a while, IMO.
I never said I didn't want Dabo, just that the expectations and pressure being what they are, he will more than likely stay at Clemson, at least when Saban steps down.
I don't like his goofyness, but Dabo is an outstanding coach. And his ability to recruit and then to develop those recruits, is extremely praiseworthy. Plus, the kids love him and I think that's great.
I'm just saying that there are a lot more factors at play than just Bama's tradition, legacy, and the fact that he is a confident young coach who loves his alma-mater.
If it were only about his love for Bama and Bama's legacy as the best CFB program of all-time, he'd be there in a millisecond.
But from a logistics perspective of pressure and expectations and having to face the West every year for a shot at the SEC title, let alone playoff spot, he has it made at Clemson and has much more rope to hang himself with.
Anyone who is taking my argument as a knock on Alabama's legacy, prestige, Dabo's love for Bama, or Bama's dominance is misinterpreting my message.
It's kind of like the Milton quote from Paradise Lost, "Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven."
He's the Emperor, the unquestioned king of Clemson, but at Bama he'd be just another great coach in a long line of many of college football's greatest coaches.
I never said I didn't want Dabo, just that the expectations and pressure being what they are, he will more than likely stay at Clemson, at least when Saban steps down.
I don't like his goofyness, but Dabo is an outstanding coach. And his ability to recruit and then to develop those recruits, is extremely praiseworthy. Plus, the kids love him and I think that's great.
I'm just saying that there are a lot more factors at play than just Bama's tradition, legacy, and the fact that he is a confident young coach who loves his alma-mater.
If it were only about his love for Bama and Bama's legacy as the best CFB program of all-time, he'd be there in a millisecond.
But from a logistics perspective of pressure and expectations and having to face the West every year for a shot at the SEC title, let alone playoff spot, he has it made at Clemson and has much more rope to hang himself with.
Anyone who is taking my argument as a knock on Alabama's legacy, prestige, Dabo's love for Bama, or Bama's dominance is misinterpreting my message.
It's kind of like the Milton quote from Paradise Lost, "Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven."
He's the Emperor, the unquestioned king of Clemson, but at Bama he'd be just another great coach in a long line of many of college football's greatest coaches.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 9:30 pm
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